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Old 09-12-2020, 01:27 AM   #1
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Wow. Can anyone confirm? Someone said Trump did not lie today. Has the Universe ended?
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Old 07-22-2020, 09:21 AM   #2
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How can this be happening in America, of all places?
Plenty of little reasons explain it. For example, many Trump officials are now "Acting ...". He fires responsible people. Replaces them with "Acting ..." people that need not be vetted. Then does not bother to hire anyone for the job - who would otherwise be vetted by Congressional or Civil Service review. He surrounds himself with a type of emotionally reactive people who will even invite Russians to manipulate our elections and then deny it publicly using insults. In short, lie. Since lying is good when a government is run by despots.

Furthermore, he has inspired a type of 'adult who is still a child' mentality that is also found in posts from Urbane Guerrilla and henry quirk. They don't reason rationally. They use emotions to justify personal attacks and insults. Then lies need not be exposed or even discussed. As if that is reasonable or an 'adult acting like an adult'.

Charlottesville, Virginia demonstrated this early on. And still, so many remained perfunctory of That Don and his long criminal history. So many foolishly credit him with the Obama economy that makes him look good. Only recently have many finally started to see The Don for who he really is. Before Covid, The Don had already started a major recession.

Notice how bad The Don had to be before so many saw it. He finally said masks are necessary. And then lies saying he always believed mask are good and necessary. No problem. Adults, who are still children, will even believe that obvious lie.

Same trends exist in Poland and Hungary. Once an 'adult child' is convinced that all institutions are conspiring against their extremist, then their support for that extremists is fully entrenched - will never change. Will always ignore facts. How many knew Nixon was a victim when reality clearly said otherwise? Entrenched - because thoughts come from a Reptilian brain.

So many also rabidly knew Saddam had WMDs when facts clearly and blatantly said he did not. All that is obvious in The Cellar back in and after 2002. And still so many in America, who believed those outright lies, refuse to apologize for their part in killing 5,000 American servicemen for no purpose. That would force them to admit why they were so easily deceived. To learn why some adults still do not think logically; are manipulated by targeting a child's (reptilian) brain.

Demonstrated are so many who know only from their feelings / emotions. A powerful machine promotes outright and obvious lies as if fact. A great purveyor of misinformation and extremism is Facebook. Run by a man who has no interest in being responsible - who only wants profits. Another source of the dribs and drabs of misinformation that slowly turn a government into totalitarian.

The President is now threatening to send Storm Troopers to cities run by Democratic Mayors. Since only those cities (he lies) contain anarchy. Another little change that, well, that is how 1930 Germany became 1940 Nazis. We are suppose to learn from history.

Gerrymandering is still standard practice. In Florida, it was done repeatedly even after laws were created to make it illegal. Florida only partially restricted gerrymandering finally when its Supreme Court said the Republican Party was intentionally and brazenly violating the law. But only required four districts to be reconfigured.

The Economist demonstrated how we are doing so much harm to America using 'death by a thousand cut' methods. What Trump did to Senator Sessions is another example of how totalitarianism happens.

A hotbed of this problem exists when great and responsible Republicans are being replaced by people who have a Nazi party attitude. Like 1930 Nazi Party, they claim to believe in government. But in reality openly endorse and work towards totalitarianism. That party has become popular among whites only who harbor racist tendencies. Even administration officials are only 'Acting'. Only approved by The Don. Whose entire life has been similar to Al Capone.

Al Capone was finally convicted on tax evasion. The Don even sacked a prosecutor (in Southern Manhattan) who job is to investigate tax evasion. Trump[ replaced that Prosecutor with another "Acting" supervisor. Al Capone would be jealous. Nobody even in the Cellar complained.

This 'death by a thousand cuts' was pioneered / promoted in America by Newt Gingrich. Who demonstrated how to obtain power by lying - attack the person rather than address an issue. Newt was a genius at this technique of using emotions and insults to rally 'adults who are still children'. What has changed in American politics. He is a Democrat so he must be liberal - therefore evil. A Trump mantra because it entrenches his mostly white, racist, and emotional 'strongest' supporters.

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Old 09-12-2020, 08:48 AM   #3
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you mean when he was talking about the people who want war for their war machine money?
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Old 09-12-2020, 11:22 AM   #4
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you mean when he was talking about the people who want war for their war machine money?
You mean he could not keep his mouth shut for even one day?
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Old 09-15-2020, 09:43 AM   #5
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Trumps lie of the day:

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It's getting COOLER. You just watch.
How brainwashed or uneducated is anyone who would vote for Trump? Well they do have a purpose in America .... as cannon fodder.
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Old 09-15-2020, 10:50 AM   #6
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Meanwhile, we here in MI are sure the impotus must have been having a word with his Friends at Fox about the projected path of hurricane Sally, seeing as he knows more about hurricanes than anyone. Looking forward to seeing the sharpie extension of the projected path on this evening's news...

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Old 09-15-2020, 03:00 PM   #7
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Ha!
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Old 09-15-2020, 04:15 PM   #8
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https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ses-joe-biden/


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Scientific American Endorses Joe Biden

We’ve never backed a presidential candidate in our 175-year history—until now



The evidence and the science show that Donald Trump has badly damaged the U.S. and its people—because he rejects evidence and science.
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Old 09-15-2020, 05:32 PM   #9
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Trump's magic marker will again prove that a hurricane will hit Alabama. He lies so incessantly that he will eventually get something right.

Why are Trump supporters in the Cellar so silent? Embarrassed?

UG - why are you not insulting people because Trump's lies are so egregious?

Maybe they also believed other liars, such as Cheney, who proved Saddam had WMDs. We are talking about what some people call "news". And what liars (KKK, White Supremacists, and Nazis) call "alternative facts".
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Old 09-15-2020, 08:36 PM   #10
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Old 09-25-2020, 06:21 PM   #11
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Trump refuses to commit to a peaceful transfer of power.


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My astonishment and outrage circuits have been overloaded so long that naked broadcasts of authoritarian intent like this should provoke a stronger response than I've experienced. It sounds bad. It is bad. It really is the advance warning, explicit and plain and direct, of what would be a constitutional crisis. The most un-American act possible by a sitting President. Yet I do not know how to respond.

Nothing seems productive or worthwhile or effective. I can't ignore it, I can't escape it; it's bullshit, *obviously*, but even bullshit pollutes the air around it even if you don't step in it. It is an act of war on our democracy, our (well armed) democratic republic. And people believe his shit! Their brains are dying, needlessly, because of their acceptance of his words, like "injecting poison into their bodies, it kills in, like, a minute". I grieve for the lost sensibilities of my fellow Americans.
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Old 09-26-2020, 07:07 AM   #12
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... Yet I do not know how to respond. ...

... I grieve for the lost sensibilities of my fellow Americans.
Vote for Trump so he'll win reelection and you won't have to worry about a transfer of power. GO FORTH AND GRIEVE NO MORE.
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Old 09-28-2020, 06:23 AM   #13
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https://apnews.com/article/election-...%20Subscribers

I feel like this is another misread of Trump voters.


WASHINGTON (AP) — The bombshell revelations that President Donald Trump paid just $750 in federal income taxes the year he ran for office and paid no income taxes at all in many others threaten to undercut a pillar of his appeal among blue-collar voters and provide a new opening for his Democratic rival, Joe Biden, on the eve of the first presidential debate.


I don't think anyone really suspects he was a great businessman. He is getting away with being a conman. That's where the love comes from. He is sticking it to The Man whoever that is.


To other voters, the magnitude of his debt might be a cause for concern.
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Old 09-28-2020, 05:13 PM   #14
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... He is sticking it to The Man whoever that is.
Now that he is The Man, he's been sticking it to himself by making himself donate his $400,000 annual Presidential salary for the past 3 years at $100,000/quarter.

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Recent salary donations go to the Health Department

... The Constitution doesn't allow the president to reject his earnings, which originally forced George Washington to accept the first presidential salary, so Trump began donating his salary quarterly in April 2017. The first $100,000 went to the National Park Service, and since then, he has donated to various federal departments.

Most recently, Trump donated the last two quarters of his 2019 salary and his first quarter of his 2020 salary to the Department of Health and Human Services. The department is working on two issues that Trump designated for the funds: the opioid crisis and COVID-19.

The Associated Press reported on Nov 26, 2019 that Trump's 2019 third-quarter salary went to the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Health, an operating agency within HHS. The funds were earmarked for "the ongoing fight against the opioid crisis."

Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany tweeted on March 3, 2020, that Trump's 2019 fourth-quarter salary was being donated to the HHS to support the department's efforts to "confront, contain, and combat #Coronavirus." The tweet also featured a picture of Trump's check to the office from January.

The 2020 first-quarter salary donation was mentioned briefly by the press secretary at a press conference on May 22, 2020. McEnany said the first quarter would again be going to HHS, this time to "develop new therapies for treating and preventing COVID-19 so that we can safely reopen."

In a tweet, Judd Deere, the deputy press secretary, confirmed that Trump's first-quarter 2020 salary will be going to HHS for "the development of new therapeutics to treat #COVID19 infections." ...
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Old 09-28-2020, 05:18 PM   #15
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lol

https://qz.com/74138/new-watered-dow...s-to-be-loved/
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