5/7/2005: Soldier comforts dying Iraqi girl - Page 4

mrnoodle · 05-10-2005, 01:03 PM

hurried response while starting the day at work. in reference to the obligatory "yeah well what about the EUROPEANS" thing from magilla. cut-and-paste liberal response to any criticism of pigment-endowed humans. not the best example of it, though.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-10-2005, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by magilla

Nope. But in my book, it disqualifies you from killing them for it.

Nonsense, it's the best reason...tradition.

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Evil does not exist as a tangible quantity innate in particular human beings and not in others.

Can't disagree more....I've know people that were pure, unadulterated evil. No socially redeeming quality whatsoever. Granted, they are rare...but the do lurk.

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There is no FORCE forcing 'them' to commit acts we label as EVIL.

Is there any force stronger than societal and/or family pressure? Especially in a society where a fall from grace means death literally as well as figuratively. Then add religion and the force be with you, like it or not.
Sure you could break free...leave the village...leave the country. But that's a pretty tall order for someone with limited money and education. Turning your back on your family and what they have believed for a milllenia, ain't easy even when you have the means. Of course you probably wouldn't get such a strange notion in the first place being contrary to the beliefs of everyone you've ever met.

magilla · 05-11-2005, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mrnoodle

hurried response while starting the day at work. in reference to the obligatory "yeah well what about the EUROPEANS" thing from magilla. cut-and-paste liberal response to any criticism of pigment-endowed humans. not the best example of it, though.

Ah, what a relief. Some things are as predictable as sunrise and sunset. For example, calling attention to hypocritical statements by neocons: "White-hating librull antimerkin SCUM!"

You need a new scriptwriter, noodle.

lookout123 · 05-11-2005, 09:43 AM

oooooh...aaaaaah......he said "neocon".

Troubleshooter · 05-11-2005, 11:29 AM

*sniffs the air*Is that a new corollary to Godwin I hear approaching?

capnhowdy · 05-11-2005, 06:46 PM

[quote] " Leave us alone" [quote]........Cap'n Howdy..............

magilla · 05-12-2005, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

*sniffs the air*Is that a new corollary to Godwin I hear approaching?

That seems to have been coopted long ago (by Internet standards, anyway) when "liberal" became an insult.

Clodfobble · 05-12-2005, 09:28 AM

Psst... hey magilla, in many circles liberal was always an insult. It's just that those circles happen to be in power right now so you actually get to hear them say it.

mrnoodle · 05-12-2005, 09:39 AM

dangit, i missed a day. catch me up -- are we still on the "YOU guys suck. no, YOU guys suck." part?

friggin liberals. you guys suck.

Lady Sidhe · 05-29-2005, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

God Damn It God Damn It God Damn It God Damn It God Damn It God Damn It.

I couldn't have said it better. Fucking BASTARDS! I don't understand how someone could justify that. They could've waited. It's a given that soldiers are going to be attacked...but anyone who would not care that innocent children would be hurt deserves to burn. And I don't mean in hell. I mean set those fuckers on fire

...then dump some white phosphorous on them just to make it worse. THEN throw them in a vat of salt. What, Allah's gonna say, "You got a kid with some of those soldiers...you get a special place!"?

fucking bastards!

Lady Sidhe · 05-29-2005, 06:55 PM

Quote: "...they were mindlessly carving each other into sand-covered steaks 2000 years before the united states existed. they indocrinate their kids from the womb to kill themselves in the course of killing other innocents. the idea that they are forced by our actions to resort to this kind of behavior is about 50 generations late...."

Ok....I don't know if they were doing all that way back in the day. I don't care. The Middle East is drowning in religious fanaticism, and that seems to--for them--make killing ok. I do agree that the extremists are trained for suicide missions--after all, kill the infidel, go straight to heaven. And I do agree that we can't be blamed for what they do. We're not forcing them to kill children. They just don't care that children are around when they do their suicide thing. And that makes the suicide bombers lower than pond scum as far as I'm concerned.

I was in favor of the war--insofar as it involved cutting off the head of Osama and playing football with it...I'm glad we got Saddam. He needed to go. As to what's going on now--look, they need to get their shit together and work out a viable government that works for them so we CAN leave. We're not there for our friggin health. Our boys would LOVE to GTF out and come home. I mean, damn...they seemed to be thrilled to peices when we toppled Saddam. Time to rule yourselves, people. I know it isn't easy, especially when you've been under a dictatorship forever, but make an effort.

Sidhe

busterb · 05-29-2005, 09:06 PM

Wonder how many of the ones sharing their wisdom about the middle-east have been there?

Troubleshooter · 05-29-2005, 09:24 PM

I don't think that going to the Middle East is a requisite for understanding the situation on a basic level.

We know that the towers were knocked down. We had reliable, not infallible, as our gov't keeps reminding us in many differing ways, information as to who had done it. That sort of action should have been followed with a short, precise, and thorough action to capture and kill the person(s) responsible..

All of the rest we have been put through has been a waste and a sham.

busterb · 05-29-2005, 09:36 PM

Right, but perhaps it would help to understand the poor butt hole who's rideing the donkey, or camel, if he has the money to afford one.

magilla · 05-30-2005, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

I don't think that going to the Middle East is a requisite for understanding the situation on a basic level.

We know that the towers were knocked down. We had reliable, not infallible, as our gov't keeps reminding us in many differing ways, information as to who had done it. That sort of action should have been followed with a short, precise, and thorough action to capture and kill the person(s) responsible..

All of the rest we have been put through has been a waste and a sham.

Do I understand you correctly, TS? It was clear from the very first that Saddam had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks, but our current administration conflated the two until many people believed he did, and also believed that Saddam and Al Qaeda were working together. Now Osama and the Taliban are another story. I supported the attacks in Afghanistan completely. As far as I was concerned, the Taliban were accessories before and after the fact to an act of war, so let 'em lie in the bed they made. I am furious that Bush threw all the good that was accomplished in Afghanistan into the toilet, along with a book some count as holy.

05-10-2005, 01:03 PM	#46
mrnoodle bent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: under the weather Posts: 2,656	hurried response while starting the day at work. in reference to the obligatory "yeah well what about the EUROPEANS" thing from magilla. cut-and-paste liberal response to any criticism of pigment-endowed humans. not the best example of it, though. __________________ Sìn a nall na cuaranan sin. -- Cha mhór is fheairrde thu iad, tha iad coltach ri cat air a dhathadh

05-11-2005, 09:43 AM	#49
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	oooooh...aaaaaah......he said "neocon". __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

05-11-2005, 11:29 AM	#50
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	sniffs the airIs that a new corollary to Godwin I hear approaching? __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

05-11-2005, 06:46 PM	#51
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	[quote] " Leave us alone" [quote]........Cap'n Howdy.............. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

05-12-2005, 09:39 AM	#54
mrnoodle bent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: under the weather Posts: 2,656	dangit, i missed a day. catch me up -- are we still on the "YOU guys suck. no, YOU guys suck." part? friggin liberals. you guys suck. __________________ Sìn a nall na cuaranan sin. -- Cha mhór is fheairrde thu iad, tha iad coltach ri cat air a dhathadh

05-12-2005, 09:28 AM	#53
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Psst... hey magilla, in many circles liberal was always an insult. It's just that those circles happen to be in power right now so you actually get to hear them say it.

05-29-2005, 06:55 PM	#56
Lady Sidhe That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.... Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Hammond, La. Posts: 978	Quote: "...they were mindlessly carving each other into sand-covered steaks 2000 years before the united states existed. they indocrinate their kids from the womb to kill themselves in the course of killing other innocents. the idea that they are forced by our actions to resort to this kind of behavior is about 50 generations late...." Ok....I don't know if they were doing all that way back in the day. I don't care. The Middle East is drowning in religious fanaticism, and that seems to--for them--make killing ok. I do agree that the extremists are trained for suicide missions--after all, kill the infidel, go straight to heaven. And I do agree that we can't be blamed for what they do. We're not forcing them to kill children. They just don't care that children are around when they do their suicide thing. And that makes the suicide bombers lower than pond scum as far as I'm concerned. I was in favor of the war--insofar as it involved cutting off the head of Osama and playing football with it...I'm glad we got Saddam. He needed to go. As to what's going on now--look, they need to get their shit together and work out a viable government that works for them so we CAN leave. We're not there for our friggin health. Our boys would LOVE to GTF out and come home. I mean, damn...they seemed to be thrilled to peices when we toppled Saddam. Time to rule yourselves, people. I know it isn't easy, especially when you've been under a dictatorship forever, but make an effort. Sidhe __________________ My free will...I never leave home without it. --House Someday I want to be rich. Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be. -Rita Rudner

05-29-2005, 09:06 PM	#57
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	Wonder how many of the ones sharing their wisdom about the middle-east have been there? __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

05-29-2005, 09:24 PM	#58
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	I don't think that going to the Middle East is a requisite for understanding the situation on a basic level. We know that the towers were knocked down. We had reliable, not infallible, as our gov't keeps reminding us in many differing ways, information as to who had done it. That sort of action should have been followed with a short, precise, and thorough action to capture and kill the person(s) responsible.. All of the rest we have been put through has been a waste and a sham. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

05-29-2005, 09:36 PM	#59
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	Right, but perhaps it would help to understand the poor butt hole who's rideing the donkey, or camel, if he has the money to afford one. __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

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