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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

To me, his relationship with Putin is an actual deficiency.

If you have a very serious foreign policy concern you must focus on that. Instead, by parsing a devastating political joke as if it was an actual request, you are playing a "gotcha game" that regular folks -- i.e., voters -- are dead tired of. IMRO*

Playing a "gotcha game" over a serious foreign policy concern also signals to the regular folks that this is not actually a serious foreign policy concern.

Currently, IMRO, anything related to Russia plays directly into his hands.



*In My Ridiculous Opinion

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

You know Trump was crackin' wise, you KNOW it.

It's never a good idea to assume that people who disagree with you are being willfully evil. Cross my heart and hope to die, I do NOT believe he was "crackin' wise." Russia was demonstrably in possession of said emails at the time, he knew it, and he asked for them. I'll grant you this: I honestly think it didn't even occur to him that such a request might be against the law, let alone bad for the country. He's not malicious; he's dangerously incompetent.

[henry quirk]

And: Trump haters always like to say what he really meant when he said what he said.

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"This country desperately needs a uniter now."

Not yet: there's still more shit to wreck.

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"his foreign policy is a real problem"

Only if you support commies (or are one*).

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"It's never a good idea to assume that people who disagree with you are being willfully evil."

But you are, clod.

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"Cross my heart and hope to die, I do NOT believe he was "crackin' wise."

No, you KNOW he was.

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"Russia was demonstrably in possession of said emails at the time, he knew it, and he asked for them."

If so: thank Crom he did. Sure as shit American journalists weren't doin' their job.

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"he's dangerously incompetent."

And he's free and the President (oh noes!).

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"I honestly think it didn't even occur to him that such a request might be against the law"

It wasn't (a request), and he wasn't doin' **dastardly.

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"let alone bad for the country"

Clinton ain't prez, so the road ahead is gold.






*or if you're an islamist...can't forget about that fine, upstanding class of would-be global tyrants


**'course, this is in the eye of the beholder...Trump could cure all cancer and all he'd get, from folks like you, is grief for puttin' a whole whack of doctors out of business

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

It's never a good idea to assume that people who disagree with you are being willfully evil. ...

Had he employed Hanlon's Razor, it wouldn't exactly have worked to your advantage here. Just sayin'.

IMHO.

[henry quirk]

[BigV]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

so she's malicious?

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Waaaaiiiiit... this is that crackin' wise bullshit, right?

Whatever dude.

[henry quirk]

well, duh

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"Let's apply Hanlon's Razor to Trump's statement under discussion and countless others like it."

Hmm, cuz some folks are too stupid (or evil) to see a joke for what it is, Trump's to blame?

'Whatever dude.'

[BigV]

Originally Posted by sexobon

Had he employed Hanlon's Razor, it wouldn't exactly have worked to your advantage here. Just sayin'.

IMHO.

Let's apply Hanlon's Razor to Trump's statement under discussion and countless others like it.

It's a disqualifying condition to be *that* stupid and be President.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by BigV

Let's apply Hanlon's Razor to Trump's statement under discussion and countless others like it.

It's a disqualifying condition to be *that* stupid and be President.

Ah; but, having put Hillary out there as the alternative created a conditional mitigation.

[sexobon]

Hard to believe someone can be malicious and delicious at the same time; but, somehow she pulls it off.

[henry quirk]

vicious imps can be alluring: succubi

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WTF it's almost like you people WANT to be torn apart limb from limb by some dude wielding nothing but a garage door frame and genius use of ratchet tie-downs and straps.

[henry quirk]

[xoxoxoBruce]

I convinced the Russians and their buddies in former Soviet states, fucked with our election in favor of trump because they wanted to deal with him rather than butt heads with Hillary. It was my understanding Mueller was investigating whether they had or had not, done exactly that.

So far all I'm hearing is someone who has seen the report says it doesn't prove Trump made a deal with Putin to make it happen. Isn't that a red herring? Aren't we missing the point of election interference and working to prevent it in the Future?

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Aren't we missing the point of election interference and working to prevent it in the Future?

Some election interference is not illegal. What is illegal collusion does not address other collusion.

We know the Russians got the president they wanted. And that so many Trump officials repeatedly tried to obstruct justice.

Report suggests Trump tried to obstruct justice. Unfortunately Giuliani is not Butterfield.