I Think It Is Time We Got Involved.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by Big Sarge

So to answer your question, a municipal prosecutor or county prosecutor can tell the DA to fuck off.

Who do these local prosecutors answer to? Are they elected or appointed? If appointed, are their bosses elected? Where does the public apply political pressure to get them reigned in?

[tw]

Originally Posted by Big Sarge

Maybe we didn't have school shootings back then because we settled problems with our fists.

We did not need fist fights. And, of course, never had guns. But then I grew up where virtually everyone went to college or something equivalent.

Closest we came to a fight was a football game where refs completely lost control. Made numerous bogus calls on both sides. It was the only game we lost. The coach ordered everyone to immediately sit on the bench so that no 'after game' confrontation could happen. Another reason why no one did something only lesser people do - fist fights. 'Powers that be' averted such low intelligence silliness before it could happen by using a fundamental management concept called "attitude and knowledge".

Unfortunately many go on as adults using same low life concepts; to advocate military actions as a solution for everything. Or need big guns because of threats that only exist in their fears.

Those fist fights illustrate people worried about being dissed (their ego) rather then dealing facts and reality. The most responsible also ask "what does he see; why is he angry." Then fists and guns become unnecessary.

[infinite monkey]

Every time I read this thread title, it reminds me of this commercial.

[Big Sarge]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Right, you were raised that way and so it is just fine with you, Q.E.D.

It is caused a cultural norm. Were you raised in a rural or urban environment? Have you ever been hunting? Have you ever been a knock down kick ass fight where it didn't matter if you won or loss? What matter was you stood your ground.

What makes your thoughts or beliefs on this matter correct?

[Big Sarge]

Originally Posted by glatt

Who do these local prosecutors answer to? Are they elected or appointed? If appointed, are their bosses elected? Where does the public apply political pressure to get them reigned in?

City prosecutors are hired by the city. County prosecutors are an elected position. District Attorneys are elected. All Federal prosecutors are appointed, except for assistants who are hired through civil service

[Big Sarge]

Originally Posted by tw

Unfortunately many go on as adults using same low life concepts; to advocate military actions as a solution for everything. Or need big guns because of threats that only exist in their fears.

Those fist fights illustrate people worried about being dissed (their ego) rather then dealing facts and reality. The most responsible also ask "what does he see; why is he angry." Then fists and guns become unnecessary.

Tw, I do believe you are a sheep. Have you ever physically defended anything? Have you ever defended your country from enemies, both foreign and domestic? I envision you as a timid little engineer who likes to Monday morning quarterback and try to talk down the people who have to make decisions in a split second.

You are a sad little man

[fargon]

Ya! Sarge.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Big Sarge

Tw, I do believe you are a sheep. Have you ever physically defended anything?

Disarming big dics with reasoning and logic is easy when an ego is not attached to every decision. Standing your ground means an ego is more important than adult thought. Ego comes from a brain that children use. Intelligent thought comes later in brain development. Many adults use a childhood brain to prove their manliness with fists. Adults eventually form a part of the brain that discovers the stupidity of ego.

Fools and the dumbest among us think fisticuffs defend a nation. They even forget that the world's strongest nations got that way by having less military. They are so attached to a child's brain as to even prove their manliness with insults.

The military spends so much time teaching discipline. Otherwise too many children in adult bodies would entertain their ego rather than be professional.

Unfortunately this may be too cerebral. Research in adolescent development notes some adults never fully develop a pre-frontal cortex. Then ego is more important than a grasp of reality. Only children (ie George Zimmerman) need to 'stand their ground'.

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by Big Sarge

It is caused a cultural norm. Were you raised in a rural or urban environment? Have you ever been hunting? Have you ever been a knock down kick ass fight where it didn't matter if you won or loss? What matter was you stood your ground.

What makes your thoughts or beliefs on this matter correct?

IDK, PROGRESS?

Cultural norms are bullshit groupthink, proof of nothing. Slavery was a cultural norm.

The idea that might makes right is barbaric and sad. Would you apply that method between an 18 year old and a 70 year old? Would you apply it between an 18 year old in good condition and an 18 year old paraplegic? Would you apply it between a man and a woman? Well why not?

People who fight should be charged with crime and jailed. One can be hurt, paralyzed or killed in a fight. What more do you need to know? We're not fucking cavemen any more!

Well one of us isn't.

[Griff]

I went to a high school like what Sarge remembers. I think that mindset is still in play there as there was recently another gay teen suicide. There is nothing brave or romantic about teen violence.

[JBKlyde]

no fuck the phone

[sexobon]

That's not what phone sex means.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by tw

Disarming big dics with reasoning and logic is easy when an ego is not attached to every decision. ....

Can't be that easy, Trayvon Martin couldn't do it.

Originally Posted by tw

Many adults use a childhood brain to prove their manliness with fists. ...

Like Trayvon Martin used his fists.

Originally Posted by tw

... Fools and the dumbest among us think fisticuffs defend a nation. ...

Many, both nationally and internationally, believe Trayvon Martin was justifiably defending his rights in this nation by perpetrating violence.

Originally Posted by tw

... Then ego is more important than a grasp of reality. ...

Like Trayvon Martin engaging someone with fists knowing they could have a gun.

Originally Posted by tw

... Only children (ie George Zimmerman) need to 'stand their ground'.

Just sayin', since you've dropped a name.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

... One can be hurt, paralyzed or killed in a fight. ...

But, but, it's so easy a caveman could do it!

Think of the cavechildren.

[tw]

Originally Posted by sexobon

Many, both nationally and internationally, believe Trayvon Martin was justifiably defending his rights in this nation by perpetrating violence.

Reality says Trayvon Martin was not armed to the teeth and therefore was not trolling for trouble. But an adult who is still a child did. No wonder Zimmerman even beat up girlfriends. After all, his manliness was at stake. His ego even justified that attack and his need for guns.

Unfortunately those same type people also want to solve problems with immediate and illogical military deployments (ie Vietnam, Mission Accomplished, Syria). Unfortunately those same type people created our recent economic malaise using soundbyte reasoning rather than learn from history. Plenty of Zimmermans exist out there justifying violence, destruction, their need for 155 mm howitzers, and even fist fights.