Andrew Breitbart is dead at 43

[Undertoad]

ALL the candidates I've seen have seriously way-out views.

The media's job is done here.

Don't mean to be rude, but this is what they do. Their entire job is to determine and sit upon the worst possible horror you (that's you plural) can be emotionally worked up by.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

The media's job is done here.

To their defense, the media didn't have to work real hard to do it.

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

The media's job is done here.

Don't mean to be rude, but this is what they do. Their entire job is to determine and sit upon the worst possible horror you (that's you plural) can be emotionally worked up by.

Maybe.
I don't read American papers, although I read articles here and follow headlines and quotes from site to site. And there are youtube clips and historical compilations regarding votes cast and points argued.

I would be far more careful if I was voting myself, of course.
But quote after quote, from their own mouths, suggest that these men are as crazy as I think they are (IMHO) and not just being painted that way by biased media. Again, bear in mind you have no left-wing press on the scale that we use to identify it, and I am definitely left wing.

Oh and as a European atheist, YMMV on my definition of crazy.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

The media's job is done here.

Don't mean to be rude, but this is what they do. Their entire job is to determine and sit upon the worst possible horror you (that's you plural) can be emotionally worked up by.

Are you saying that Sundae is wrong?

[Undertoad]

Yes

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Yes

So if the grass is green, and the media says the grass is green, and Sundae believes the grass is green, she believes it only because the media said the grass is green, and, in fact, the grass is not green. Hmmm.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

So if the grass is green, and the media says the grass is green, and Sundae believes the grass is green, she believes it only because the media said the grass is green, and, in fact, the grass is not green. Hmmm.

But you are making the assumption that the grass is green even though you personally have never seen it. You want the grass to be green so you will take statements saying 'the grass is green' as more valid than statements saying 'the grass isn't as green as you think'.


Politics is largely an act and politicians will say, within certain constraints, what is needed to get votes. It makes perfect sense for Republican candidates to take socially conservative stances because that is the only way they will get elected. Ask John Huntsman how well the socially liberal economically conservative stance went for him. Look how Romney's views drastically changed since he was governor of Massachusetts.

The media then focuses on the extreme viewpoints that will get an emotional reaction out of viewers ('This politician is nuts!' type response) because they get higher ratings. Then, the politicians can either disregard those allegations (Obama) or embrace them (Republican candidates) depending on whether they believe it will help them or not.


To get to the point, the Republican candidates are not as crazy as the are portrayed because only their extreme views are only ones that get attention. Personally I would never vote for them but I don't believe they are as stupid as they come off to be.

[infinite monkey]

So we shouldn't talk about any issues, then, lest we find we're just reacting to the media who told us about the issue in the first place.

We cannot discuss death, guns, war, destruction, crazy-ass-shooter rampages, celebrities, celebrity deaths, book reviews, movie reviews, sports, politics, comic strips, want ads, commercials, the advantages or disadvantages of laxatives, or Activia, music, gas prices, evil, good deeds, human suffering, the indomitable human spirit, fibromyalgia, cancer, bad dogs, good dogs, rats, tv shows, beds, clothes...

So, what do you guys want to talk about? The weather? No, that's on the news so I don't have my own opinion about it.

[Undertoad]

Fucking christ, really? I'm so sorry that my opinion is different from yours and you can't seem to handle that.

I didn't say don't discuss things and I don't have the right to. You put that shit on yourself. Don't you even dare suggest I ever said not to discuss anything.

And by the way if you want to suggest you don't have a hysterical reaction to the media? Try not having a hysterical reaction to my post about it.

[infinite monkey]

Seriously? Who's hysterical? Jebus, man. Double triple FFS.

Sorry about the tongue in cheek comment. I didn't know you lost your sense of humor.

This is what's so lovely here. Who needs it? Meh.

[infinite monkey]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Fucking christ, really? I'm so sorry that my opinion is different from yours and you can't seem to handle that.

I didn't say don't discuss things and I don't have the right to. You put that shit on yourself. Don't you even dare suggest I ever said not to discuss anything.

And by the way if you want to suggest you don't have a hysterical reaction to the media? Try not having a hysterical reaction to my post about it.

Again. I'm flabbergasted.

And about ready to puke.

Now let's all go discuss boogers and how we pick them. Fucking christ.

[henry quirk]

Toad,

When I read this...

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So we shouldn't talk about any issues, then, lest we find we're just reacting to the media who told us about the issue in the first place.

We cannot discuss death, guns, war, destruction, crazy-ass-shooter rampages, celebrities, celebrity deaths, book reviews, movie reviews, sports, politics, comic strips, want ads, commercials, the advantages or disadvantages of laxatives, or Activia, music, gas prices, evil, good deeds, human suffering, the indomitable human spirit, fibromyalgia, cancer, bad dogs, good dogs, rats, tv shows, beds, clothes...

So, what do you guys want to talk about? The weather? No, that's on the news so I don't have my own opinion about it.

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...I take it in the spirit it was offered: one of bemusement. You, however, viewed it as an attack.

Thin-skinned is too polite an expression for you.

Bluntly: her comment was smart and funny...yours, reactionary and stupid.

[infinite monkey]

Thanks henry. It's nice that there's a man around here who has a pair.

[Undertoad]

alrighty then

[Undertoad]

er, that is to say, sorry. I think I will just bow out of Politics altogether to save my sanity and the sanity of others.