Walmart is poisoning our kids - Page 4

Shawnee123 · 01-16-2010, 10:38 AM

LMAO!

You're particularly funny today, you fellow human-mocker.

sugarpop · 01-18-2010, 04:46 PM

I bet they all watch FOX news and vote republican too.

It's our own damn fault. As a society, we want things as cheap as possible, and empolyers get away with paying people the least amount possible, and we don't care. We should stand up, as a nation, and DEMAND MORE from corporations and politicians alike. But we don't. *sigh*

xoxoxoBruce · 01-18-2010, 04:54 PM

Psssst...union.

classicman · 01-18-2010, 05:05 PM

shhh - its a secret, xob

Pico and ME · 01-18-2010, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Psssst...unions.

..are almost extinct.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-18-2010, 05:34 PM

Which is why so many are getting screwed.

TheMercenary · 01-19-2010, 10:58 AM

And now we are getting screwed as the unions get a gift, if it passes in the final Bill.

BrianR · 01-19-2010, 11:19 AM

A union is a self-defeating organization.

It starts out great, helping it's members get better working conditions etc etc etc.

Then it starts out small, dues go up with no corresponding increase in service to it's members. Then contract renegotiation comes around and they have to produce something of value to the hoi polloi. So wages go up and up every year. Seniority begins kicking in. Favoritism begins at the same time. Nepotism shows up too.

Eventually, wages are as high as they can get without bankrupting the company. So in order to satisfy the unsatisfiable, they begin adding time off in the form of every imaginable holiday. More breaks. More vacation. More work rules which appear to discourage anything getting done.

Eventually, the members reach the top, where they are being paid top dollar for the least amount of work, they have effectively priced themselves out of any industry in which they are not unavoidable. Their bids are much too high, even though they are skilled workers (mostly) and they give good value. It's just that they're almost too good and builders and manufacturers are willing to sacrifice some of that quality for lower prices that the consumer demands.

This is why every industry that has unions in it sucks. The steel industry has lost it all, automotive manufacturing is losing out to nonunion Japanese, the electronics industry is gone to China, textiles are in south america with it's abundant cheap labor and no unions and Americans are unemployed, our industrial base is gone overseas, we're overdependent on imports, the deficit goes to stratospheric levels, tax bases drop and taxes go up with the tax and spend government running wild.

In my opinion, unions started out a great idea but got greedy and killed the jobs they were trying to save and protect.

There is no easy way out of this hole. There may not BE a way out of this hole. I can't even suggest a hard fix. Perhaps outlawing unions and instead passing worker protection laws with some teeth as well as product safety and mandatory quality standards coupled with tariffs on imports to encourage buying domestic products. But the consumer would still pay more out of pocket for everything for a long time before things finally get better.

And no one is willing to pay that price.

lumberjim · 01-19-2010, 12:51 PM

This is what happens when Twisted Sister literally will not take it any more.
Kansas

xoxoxoBruce · 01-24-2010, 04:26 PM

Back up...

SamIam · 01-25-2010, 09:03 AM

China hates children:

Quote:

BEIJING – Melamine-tainted dairy products were pulled from convenience store shelves in southern China more than a year after hundreds of thousands of children had been sickened in a massive milk safety scandal, a government spokeswoman said Monday.

The announcement calls into question the effectiveness of a crackdown launched by Chinese officials to improve product safety after a number of scandals, including the contamination of baby formula in 2008 and the recent discovery of the toxic metal cadmium in cheap jewelry.

skysidhe · 01-25-2010, 12:46 PM

Somehow toxic cheap jewelry is easier to believe than that T Shirt.

oh tell me it aint so!

lumberjim · 01-25-2010, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Back up...

her thinner, poorer sister:

lumberjim · 05-02-2010, 09:03 PM

Hey! Hey! Hey man, hold up. There’s a f***in’ Jellyfish on your head! Stay still, I’ll pee on it.
Ohio

lumberjim · 05-02-2010, 09:39 PM

Someone go get this guy a giant lollipop because other than that I’m not sure he could possibly get any more adorable!
North Carolina

01-16-2010, 10:38 AM	#46
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	LMAO! You're particularly funny today, you fellow human-mocker. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

01-18-2010, 04:54 PM	#48
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Psssst...union. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-18-2010, 05:05 PM	#49
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	shhh - its a secret, xob __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-18-2010, 05:34 PM	#51
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Which is why so many are getting screwed. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-19-2010, 10:58 AM	#52
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	And now we are getting screwed as the unions get a gift, if it passes in the final Bill. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

01-18-2010, 04:46 PM	#47
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	I bet they all watch FOX news and vote republican too. It's our own damn fault. As a society, we want things as cheap as possible, and empolyers get away with paying people the least amount possible, and we don't care. We should stand up, as a nation, and DEMAND MORE from corporations and politicians alike. But we don't. sigh

01-19-2010, 11:19 AM	#53
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	A union is a self-defeating organization. It starts out great, helping it's members get better working conditions etc etc etc. Then it starts out small, dues go up with no corresponding increase in service to it's members. Then contract renegotiation comes around and they have to produce something of value to the hoi polloi. So wages go up and up every year. Seniority begins kicking in. Favoritism begins at the same time. Nepotism shows up too. Eventually, wages are as high as they can get without bankrupting the company. So in order to satisfy the unsatisfiable, they begin adding time off in the form of every imaginable holiday. More breaks. More vacation. More work rules which appear to discourage anything getting done. Eventually, the members reach the top, where they are being paid top dollar for the least amount of work, they have effectively priced themselves out of any industry in which they are not unavoidable. Their bids are much too high, even though they are skilled workers (mostly) and they give good value. It's just that they're almost too good and builders and manufacturers are willing to sacrifice some of that quality for lower prices that the consumer demands. This is why every industry that has unions in it sucks. The steel industry has lost it all, automotive manufacturing is losing out to nonunion Japanese, the electronics industry is gone to China, textiles are in south america with it's abundant cheap labor and no unions and Americans are unemployed, our industrial base is gone overseas, we're overdependent on imports, the deficit goes to stratospheric levels, tax bases drop and taxes go up with the tax and spend government running wild. In my opinion, unions started out a great idea but got greedy and killed the jobs they were trying to save and protect. There is no easy way out of this hole. There may not BE a way out of this hole. I can't even suggest a hard fix. Perhaps outlawing unions and instead passing worker protection laws with some teeth as well as product safety and mandatory quality standards coupled with tariffs on imports to encourage buying domestic products. But the consumer would still pay more out of pocket for everything for a long time before things finally get better. And no one is willing to pay that price. __________________ Never be afraid to tell the world who you are. -- Anonymous

01-19-2010, 12:51 PM	#54
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	This is what happens when Twisted Sister literally will not take it any more. Kansas __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

01-24-2010, 04:26 PM	#55
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Back up... Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-25-2010, 12:46 PM	#57
skysidhe ~~Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.~~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6,828	Somehow toxic cheap jewelry is easier to believe than that T Shirt. oh tell me it aint so!

05-02-2010, 09:03 PM	#59
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Hey! Hey! Hey man, hold up. There’s a f***in’ Jellyfish on your head! Stay still, I’ll pee on it. Ohio __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

05-02-2010, 09:39 PM	#60
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Someone go get this guy a giant lollipop because other than that I’m not sure he could possibly get any more adorable! North Carolina __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

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