The British should implement the death penalty - Page 4

DanaC · 06-08-2009, 05:53 PM

No, really? you? :P

Aliantha · 06-08-2009, 06:02 PM

I wasn't aware of doing it that often, although I do like to try and consider things from different perspectives.

I used to really like discussion papers when I was at uni for this reason.

TheMercenary · 06-08-2009, 06:36 PM

Ali: The Devil's Advocate It's an American movie

Aliantha · 06-08-2009, 06:37 PM

Hey...I don't look anything like big Al.

ZenGum · 06-08-2009, 06:42 PM

Yeah, but the witness picked you out of the line up.

What do you want for your last meal?

Aliantha · 06-08-2009, 07:13 PM

cocopops

capnhowdy · 06-08-2009, 08:39 PM

Cocopuffs./:eng trans:/

classicman · 06-08-2009, 09:02 PM

Actually I think they are more like a chocolate version of our "Corn Pops"

capnhowdy · 06-08-2009, 09:03 PM

I'm going to try to find the time to do a stat thingie on death-worthy crimes committed per capita during the era of the guillotine, stoning, gallows, and the firing sqad as opposed to times w/out capitol punishment. You think there will be a noticeable difference?

The people who got cleared after years on DR were mainly those whose trial was pre DNA days. Now we have the ability for the prosecution to present this as evidence in the trial from jump st. The days of what the jury believes, IMO are waning. Technology has no emotion.
To get completely real... a juror would be less credible for a verdict decision than scientific fact/data any day.
I think most folks who are convicted and sentenced to the DP these days, have a minute chance of clearance...regardless of how many years. If the evidence is there, surely they'd use it. Yep. technology is fairly well making it 'cut and dried'. Methinks.

capnhowdy · 06-08-2009, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

Actually I think they are more like a chocolate version of our "Corn Pops"

You know.... COCO-PUFFS. With the brown stork looking bird with the round glasses. I must be the only old geezer on this board.......

classicman · 06-08-2009, 09:07 PM

What are you Koo-koo?

You mean these?

I was thinkin of those other things with the Vampire dude ....

My bad - I stand corrected.

ZenGum · 06-08-2009, 09:08 PM

Forensics can be manipulated, faked, or just dumb-ass screwed up, just like any other form of evidence.

I've been in philosophy seminars where captial punishment was the topic, stats like what you want are often discussed, but it is virtually impossible to get a conclusive finding because you need two societies where all conditions are the same except for captial punishment. Capital punishment and high crime rates are correlated because capital punishment is brought in in reaction to high crime rates.

Shawnee123 · 06-08-2009, 09:08 PM

Cocoa Puffs used to be hollow. Now they're just chocolate cheetos.

Aliantha · 06-08-2009, 09:20 PM

Shawnee123 · 06-08-2009, 09:23 PM

Yep, different cereal. I hope the warden knows the difference!

06-08-2009, 06:02 PM	#47
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I wasn't aware of doing it that often, although I do like to try and consider things from different perspectives. I used to really like discussion papers when I was at uni for this reason. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

06-08-2009, 06:36 PM	#48
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Ali: The Devil's Advocate It's an American movie __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

06-08-2009, 06:37 PM	#49
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Hey...I don't look anything like big Al. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

06-08-2009, 06:42 PM	#50
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Yeah, but the witness picked you out of the line up. What do you want for your last meal? __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

06-08-2009, 07:13 PM	#51
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	cocopops __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

06-08-2009, 08:39 PM	#52
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	Cocopuffs./:eng trans:/ __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

06-08-2009, 09:02 PM	#53
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Actually I think they are more like a chocolate version of our "Corn Pops" __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-08-2009, 09:03 PM	#54
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	I'm going to try to find the time to do a stat thingie on death-worthy crimes committed per capita during the era of the guillotine, stoning, gallows, and the firing sqad as opposed to times w/out capitol punishment. You think there will be a noticeable difference? The people who got cleared after years on DR were mainly those whose trial was pre DNA days. Now we have the ability for the prosecution to present this as evidence in the trial from jump st. The days of what the jury believes, IMO are waning. Technology has no emotion. To get completely real... a juror would be less credible for a verdict decision than scientific fact/data any day. I think most folks who are convicted and sentenced to the DP these days, have a minute chance of clearance...regardless of how many years. If the evidence is there, surely they'd use it. Yep. technology is fairly well making it 'cut and dried'. Methinks. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

06-08-2009, 09:07 PM	#56
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	What are you Koo-koo? You mean these? I was thinkin of those other things with the Vampire dude .... My bad - I stand corrected. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-08-2009, 09:08 PM	#57
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Forensics can be manipulated, faked, or just dumb-ass screwed up, just like any other form of evidence. I've been in philosophy seminars where captial punishment was the topic, stats like what you want are often discussed, but it is virtually impossible to get a conclusive finding because you need two societies where all conditions are the same except for captial punishment. Capital punishment and high crime rates are correlated because capital punishment is brought in in reaction to high crime rates. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

06-08-2009, 09:08 PM	#58
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Cocoa Puffs used to be hollow. Now they're just chocolate cheetos. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

06-08-2009, 09:20 PM	#59
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	__________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

06-08-2009, 09:23 PM	#60
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Yep, different cereal. I hope the warden knows the difference! Attached Images __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

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