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DanaC · 10-25-2008, 12:17 PM

Mm. I am using organise in a more abstract sense. Perhaps, a better way of putting it would be that politics underpins how our societies/groups/families/races/schools/clubs/governments etc etc, are organised. Politics is the name we give to the stuff we do when we interact as human beings: reciprocity, co-operation, hierarchies, place within the group - all these things are what have evolved into 'politics'. We separate 'politics' from our day to day life because we have in modern culture separated 'home' from 'world'. But politics is just the ultimate expression of the tribal/pack interactions which we (along with other species) have found so profitable.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-25-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff

The organizers are always out on the right or left edges and are often destroyers not creators.

Yeah, it seems the extremes, right or left, are the ones most anxious to "organize" every group... make the rules and set the direction/goals.

Dana, that's the broadest definition of politics I've even read.

monster · 10-25-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SamIam

We live in a republic disguised as a democracy. (don't know if our British friends live in a democracy or a republic

It's a democracy disguised as a monarchy.

btw, in UK politics, bllue = conservative right, red = liberal left. it's like driving...

xoxoxoBruce · 10-25-2008, 04:39 PM

Btw, you foreigners can vote too.
http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/

Sundae · 10-25-2008, 05:14 PM

Interesting.
I just wonder if "the rest of the world" dislikes the phrase

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The president of the United States of America is the most powerful person in the world.

as much as I do.

DanaC · 10-25-2008, 05:59 PM

He is though. If anyone is it's him.

Sundae · 10-25-2008, 06:10 PM

I just don't need to hear it again and again and again.
It wasn't necessary in that context anyway.

How about if I, in every post, told people I'm on the front desk at EEA. Hey, deliveries, visitors and phone calls are screwed when I'm not there!

Nope. People who work with me know that. There's no point in mentioning it.

SamIam · 10-26-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Interesting.
I just wonder if "the rest of the world" dislikes the phrase
as much as I do.

Probably the most powerful person in the world is the head of the Saudi royal family. He who controls the oil, controls the world. Without oil to run it, our military would be powerless to engage in its current adventures "making the world safe for democracy."

richlevy · 10-26-2008, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SamIam

Probably the most powerful person in the world is the head of the Saudi royal family. He who controls the oil, controls the world. Without oil to run it, our military would be powerless to engage in its current adventures "making the world safe for democracy."

True, but the Saudis are not all of OPEC, and OPEC does not control %100 of the worlds supply.

SamIam · 10-26-2008, 10:21 AM

True. The last I heard, the majority of our foreign oil imports are from Canada. So, maybe the Canadian Prime Minister is the most powerful person in the world. Go Maple Leaves!

classicman · 10-26-2008, 11:48 AM

We import the most oil from Canada refine it and send most of that back. Most of the oil we consume/use/waste/whatever does not come from there.

Trilby · 10-26-2008, 03:27 PM

know what scares me? Old women drivers. Old women drivers who think Barak Obama is an A-rab.

regular.joe · 10-26-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Interesting.
I just wonder if "the rest of the world" dislikes the phrase
as much as I do.

I much prefer "the hand that rocks the cradle, rocks the world".

Aliantha · 10-27-2008, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff

Actually, I think I understand. The idea that "we" organize societies rather than societies being a result of natural interactions is my problem. I sat through some right wing organizing the last time I was in a church and listen to left wing organizing at work. So I guess it is the difference between what I want and what I see. The organizers are always out on the right or left edges and are often destroyers not creators.

Maybe it's natural to organize ourselves, taking into account that for every organizer, there's a herd of followers who just want to be organized.

It's the natural course of events.

TheMercenary · 10-27-2008, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Brianna

know what scares me? Old women drivers. Old women drivers who think Barak Obama is an A-rab.

What? He's not?

10-25-2008, 04:39 PM	#49
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Btw, you foreigners can vote too. http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/ __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-25-2008, 06:10 PM	#52
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	I just don't need to hear it again and again and again. It wasn't necessary in that context anyway. How about if I, in every post, told people I'm on the front desk at EEA. Hey, deliveries, visitors and phone calls are screwed when I'm not there! Nope. People who work with me know that. There's no point in mentioning it. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

10-26-2008, 11:48 AM	#56
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	We import the most oil from Canada refine it and send most of that back. Most of the oil we consume/use/waste/whatever does not come from there. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-26-2008, 03:27 PM	#57
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	know what scares me? Old women drivers. Old women drivers who think Barak Obama is an A-rab. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

10-25-2008, 12:17 PM	#46
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Mm. I am using organise in a more abstract sense. Perhaps, a better way of putting it would be that politics underpins how our societies/groups/families/races/schools/clubs/governments etc etc, are organised. Politics is the name we give to the stuff we do when we interact as human beings: reciprocity, co-operation, hierarchies, place within the group - all these things are what have evolved into 'politics'. We separate 'politics' from our day to day life because we have in modern culture separated 'home' from 'world'. But politics is just the ultimate expression of the tribal/pack interactions which we (along with other species) have found so profitable.

10-25-2008, 05:59 PM	#51
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	He is though. If anyone is it's him.

10-26-2008, 10:21 AM	#55
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	True. The last I heard, the majority of our foreign oil imports are from Canada. So, maybe the Canadian Prime Minister is the most powerful person in the world. Go Maple Leaves!

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