Long Distance Phone Call Execution

[regular.joe]

I'm all out of pee. Really, I've said all I have to say. Honest.

[tw]

Originally Posted by regular.joe

Well, since I'm not talking to a military officer, I guess I have to consider the source.

Why do you reinterpret (distort) in ‘black and white’? Why do you associate yourself with the politics of Urbane Guerrilla? Both were/are enlisted men. Do you believe Urbane Guerilla represents who you are? Or do you, instead, keep learning?

Enlisted men are only disparaged if reading with distortion as UG does. Why distort a post into a UG world of 'black verses white', 'good verses evil' concepts. That post clearly says contrary to your reply. Was the difference between two types of enlisted men too complex, or was the post too long to grasp?

Enlisted men were never disparaged. Noted is a type of enlisted man who could never be officer material even after 20 years. Where does that disparage all enlisted men? Hopefully you - regular.joe – are not myopic as UG. Hopefully you also don’t rewrite history to justify a political agenda; view the world only from a rifle barrel. Do you understand most military conflicts never need occur when using diplomacy? Officers and informed enlisted men understand the purpose of war. UG does not. But does regular.joe? Would you associate yourself with dangerous UG myopia. Do you advocate more wars in Iran, Syria, North Korea, Pakistan, and throughout the horn of Africa? Or do you instead continue learning so as to be potential officer material?

Some enlisted men will never be officer material, will never understand simple military principles taught in Military Science 101, in the writing of Szu Tze, or as defined by Thomas Barnett. Those who most respect the American soldier understand these concepts. Since all enlisted men are not like UG; then enlisted men were not disparaged. So tell us, regular.joe. Do you grasp the foolishness by Urbane Guerilla and lookout123? Or would you save the world by constantly going to war? Others here have demonstrated a grasp of reality? Do you?

Are you potential officer material? Do you understand a simplest concept: the purpose of war? OK. Tell us. What is the purpose of war. Regular.joe – tell us. What is the purpose of war?

Did you understand what that Captain in Iraq meant when he said, "I cannot lose this war. And I cannot win this war either." 'Officer material' comprehended the quandary defined so explicitly by this officer. Do you?

Those who respect the American soldier also routinely ask this damning question. Both UG and lookout123 have so much contempt for America and the American soldier as to openly avoid asking this question. Repeatedly challenged, neither will ask a question that every American patriot would ask. When will we go after bin Laden? Do you associate with those whose politics are more important than (subvert) America? Or do you ask this damning question? "When do we go after bin Laden?"

[lookout123]

so when do you think we'll go after bin laden?

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Well, well, tw. Your ill-founded prejudices and hard-held delusions get your dick knocked in the dirt for you. Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy, less because you're such a K-less dic[k] than because you're such an antidemocrat and such a fascisto-communist sympathizing moral pervert and despiser of all that makes life worth living, which the communism you love utterly lacks.

[classicman]

Bin too long now - why go after one man anyway? Does he really wield that much power still?

[tw]

Originally Posted by classicman

Bin too long now - why go after one man anyway? Does he really wield that much power still?

All rapists should go free after five years. All murders pardoned after six. I love the reasoning that only a scumbag president and his supporters would parrot.

America's Enemy #1 is bin Laden. Instead our wackos who even disbanded Alec Station (the group assigned by Clinton to get bin Laden) now say we must go after more dangerous enemies - such as Saddam and his WMDs. Or maybe we must nuke Iran because they might build a nuclear bomb. Guess again. Or North Korea whose only intent is to nuke the continental US. Oh. Another myth. How many more mythical enemies are more deserving of 'Pearl Harboring'? Clearly we should ignore bin Laden since ignoring promotes a wacko extremists political agenda. Remember, that political agenda is far more important than America.

In short - shame on you for even suggesting it.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by tw

~snip~ shame on you for even suggesting it.

Exactly when did I suggest anything of the sort? I simply asked a question. You needn't be so rude as to make implications where none should exist. Shame on me? Shame on you!

[lookout123]

what do you think tw will have to talk about on 1/21/09? i mean, will he talk anymore? will he even exist anymore?

[tw]

Originally Posted by classicman

Exactly when did I suggest anything of the sort? I simply asked a question. You needn't be so rude as to make implications where none should exist.

My most polite posts are rude and my most rude posts are polite. The only thing you should have read are the facts. Any emotion you might perceive? Assume it exists only to confuse you. Only the facts are relevant. One fact is that bin Laden is America’s Enemy #1. There is no greater criminal to any patriotic American – which is a specific reference to both Urbane Guerrilla and lookout123. Again – the facts.

If you read any praise or insult, then you are reading something that is not there – or may even just test you to see whether you can separate your emotions from the facts.

If you think anything was rude, well, that was 100% your emotional response. Why did you waste time with a perceived insult rather than address only the facts? Nothing I posted (or in this post) was intended to be rude or praise. It was intended to address only one fundamental question with blunt, explicit accuracy: “when do we go after bin Laden?” It also identifies extremists who would deny this question because the question exposes the mental midget president for who he is. When do we go after American Enemy #1? America has no greater living criminal even though wacko extremists would deny it for what is more important to them - a political agenda.

[lookout123]

which is a specific reference to both Urbane Guerrilla and lookout123

why do you continue to throw this crap in my direction? have you no more self restraint than a monkey?

[classicman]

Originally Posted by tw

My most polite posts are rude and my most rude posts are polite.~snip~ Any emotion you might perceive? Assume it exists only to confuse you. ~snip~
If you read any praise or insult, then you are reading something that is not there – or may even just test you to see whether you can separate your emotions from the facts.~snip~

You seem very confused to me tw. Polite is rude & rude is polite. You claim that nothing is relevant other than facts, then direct me to assume, then state any praise or insult is a test. seperate your emotions from the facts. Your post is full of innuendos and implications. Make up your mind please.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

The attaching of too much importance to bin Laden's person is the most vivid mark of strategic amateurs imaginable. You can't personify the Islamofascist movement in one single man, and Islamofascism is not balanced atop bin Laden's shoulders. Your insistence that this is the supreme objective is wrong, for it will divert us from actually defeating Islamofascism, the broader threat. It is notable with you that you always and uniformly advocate the mistaken strategies that will lose America the war. Why you have such a resentment towards your mother country, tw, you can and will never explain, yet you must explain if you wish to redeem your soul.

It is more important to see Islamofascism destroyed and bin Laden still living out in the wilds than to get bin Laden and assume or expect that that will do the job of defeating Islamofascism. The way wars usually work, especially in modern centuries, is that the enemy's armies must be defeated and sinews of war destroyed, before it even gets possible to make the enemy's leaders captive. Wars have an attritional element.

Bin Laden is a cherry on top, and like the cherry not in himself much significance in the overall downfall of Islamofascism no matter when he's captured or dies. His intel value? -- who knows really?

Now, tw: That is the true and the right answer to the question you make such a big amateurs' deal of. I know you will not be able to accept or acknowledge the rightness of this answer, but that is just a sign I've got it right. You never knew the right, not in human affairs. You lack the knack, and it appears you have since childhood.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

The attaching of too much importance to bin Laden's person is the most vivid mark of strategic amateurs imaginable.

bin Laden is a benchmark to identify false patriots. George Jr tells Urbane Guerrilla what to think. George Jr competence is why bin Laden runs free. A patriotic Urbane Guerrilla would be appalled at that George Jr incompetence for letting bin Laden go free. Instead, Urbane Guerrilla can only parrot the party line. Ignore the fact that bin Laden can kill thousands of Americans and George Jr makes no serious effort to get bin Laden. Even the group assembled by Clinton (Alec Station) to get bin Laden is disbanded by George Jr. After all, if the bogeyman is protected and still exists, then George Jr lies about enemies under our beds still works on Urbane Guerrillas. Orange Alert – bin Laden planning to attack … Urbane Guerrilla loves such lies. It promotes more war.

The wacko extremists are so corrupt as to even repeatedly hype WWIII and Iranian threats when known was that Iran did not have a bomb program for four years. ‘Liars are Us’ is a sign hung adjacent to the one entitled “Mission Accomplished”. Same liar lets bin Laden run free. Urbane Guerrilla is either insane, stupid, or so anti-American as to parrot what the lying president says. Well after 20 years, he still was never officer material.

Urbane Guerrilla. bin Laden is how we measure your sanity, your intelligence, or your patriotism. Which one is missing? Multiple answers from those three categories are a distinct possibility. I am tired being politically correct with one who promised to rewrite the Pentagon Papers and still has no manuscript. But then George Jr also promised god told him what to do. Hummmh. Urbane Guerilla is a White House lawyer who also rewrites science reports? No wonder he has no time to rewrite the history of Nam. No wonder he cannot tell us the truth. Truth is a bad word among those who so love a scumbag.

UG - this should make you feel so much at home. I only do it for a so few select people. You so love abuse. Sorry, though, that I cannot lie like you and your idol. I know how much you love lies. But then you have George Jr. Is that not enough?

[Urbane Guerrilla]

IOW, tw -- I'm a poet! -- you are a false patriot. Well, hell, we knew that. And you're a resolute liar -- half the truth is as close as you come,you poor defective obsessive. It is remarkable just how inferior a being you are, how childish in your emotional postings -- for I have induced you to seven paragraphs in two posts of madness and ranting.

Spock was a master of his passions. You are not.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

He may pull a Mary McGrory and still be kicking GWB around two years after he leaves office like McGrory did with Reagan. Gawd, she was toxic -- never met a socialist dictatorship or despot she couldn't love. Sounds rather familiar, doesn't it?

Fortunately it was Reagan and not McGrory who was in charge.

Nota bene: Two posts, one fairly wordy, and tw makes no explanation of why he so hates his mother country as to always try to get it to lose wars with fascists and other subdemocrats.

He can't. And he knows it. Resolutely, night and day, tw sucks at about 43 bars' suction, to embarrass himself and all the causes he endorses. This actually has value, in that it's a fair indicator of which ideas are so very bad that only left-wing intellectuals can hold them. I'd have to suck up about 43 bars' worth of drink to get intoxicated enough to agree with the man. Strike that; there isn't enough drink.