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TheMercenary · 03-28-2007, 04:37 PM

"unreasonable searches" key word here... I don't find them to be unreasonable at this point.

"How can you say the first one is worthy and this one's not?! Who are you to decide which parts of the Constitution are worthy of respect and obedience and which are not?" Who are you to say they are or are not? No better than me in that respect, eh?

"What part of warrantless searches do you not understand?" What part of 9/11 do you not understand? What part of terrorism do you not understand? Exactly how often have you traveled to parts of the world where your life is in danger because you are an American before 9/11? What do you do for a living that you feel soooo protected by the ills of people who really do want to kill you and your family and everything about you? It is people that think like you that got us into this mess in the first place and now that concrete steps are taken to change that and prevent future loss you want to dial back the clock. I got news for ya, it ain't happening. Well unless of course Hitlery Clit on is elected and then the Dems will certainly have all the control they desired, and all of the responsibility to keep you safe. Good luck on that last one.

Happy Monkey · 03-28-2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

"What part of warrantless searches do you not understand?" What part of 9/11 do you not understand? What part of terrorism do you not understand?

So the feds were waiting on a warrant when the planes took off on 9-11? If only they had some way to act immediately and get a retroactive warrant 72 hours later...

TheMercenary · 03-28-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

So the feds were waiting on a warrant when the planes took off on 9-11? If only they had some way to act immediately and get a retroactive warrant 72 hours later...

My friend. If you think that 9/11 was the first time we were engaged in trying to find, hunt down, capture, or kill terrorists around the world you have some schooling to do.

Happy Monkey · 03-28-2007, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

My friend. If you think that 9/11 was the first time we were engaged in trying to find, hunt down, capture, or kill terrorists around the world you have some schooling to do.

Relevance?

TheMercenary · 03-28-2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Relevance?

Your ignorance about the world around you outside your current life.

tw · 03-28-2007, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

do you not understand?" What part of 9/11 do you not understand? What part of terrorism do you not understand? Exactly how often have you traveled to parts of the world where your life is in danger because you are an American before 9/11?

The only reason Americans were in danger is because the president had the same grasp and intelligence you are posting. Good Americans know of the so many FBI investigations quashed by the George Jr administration - in AZ, MN, IL, NY, and the international one lead by O'Neill. All were quashed by people who knew no such threat existed. Why does TheMercenary deny this? He had a political objective that also advocates Nazi like "Where are your papers".

Meanwhile Maine, Wyoming, and (forgot the third state) have passed laws in rebellion to what TheMercenary now requires.

Whether you drive or not, you must have these papers. No access to airlines, government offices, etc without these new mandated papers. Is an officer stops you one the street and you don't have your papers, then the office can take you in for an identity check. This is the new laws now being instituted because THEY see enemies everywhere ... just like TheMercenary.

Four separate FBI investigations on the trail of 11 September actors were quashed by the George Jr administration. That's not conspiracy. That's published facts.

And the Chicago agents were not told to stop investigating. They were yelled at, "You will not open an investigation." Both agents waited to retire before they would take interviews on how their investigation was terminated.

Meanwhile TheMercenary calls this a conspiracy theory only because it exposes his political agenda as Nazi like "Where are your papers" mentality. Those threats only exist in his fears.

BTW, did you know that horse you were riding was not real? Just asking because of your love for George Jr.

TheMercenary · 03-29-2007, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tw

The only reason Americans were in danger is because the president had the same grasp and intelligence you are posting. Good Americans know of the so many FBI investigations quashed by the George Jr administration - in AZ, MN, IL, NY, and the international one lead by O'Neill. All were quashed by people who knew no such threat existed. Why does TheMercenary deny this? He had a political objective that also advocates Nazi like "Where are your papers".

Meanwhile Maine, Wyoming, and (forgot the third state) have passed laws in rebellion to what TheMercenary now requires.

Whether you drive or not, you must have these papers. No access to airlines, government offices, etc without these new mandated papers. Is an officer stops you one the street and you don't have your papers, then the office can take you in for an identity check. This is the new laws now being instituted because THEY see enemies everywhere ... just like TheMercenary.

Four separate FBI investigations on the trail of 11 September actors were quashed by the George Jr administration. That's not conspiracy. That's published facts.

And the Chicago agents were not told to stop investigating. They were yelled at, "You will not open an investigation." Both agents waited to retire before they would take interviews on how their investigation was terminated.

Meanwhile TheMercenary calls this a conspiracy theory only because it exposes his political agenda as Nazi like "Where are your papers" mentality. Those threats only exist in his fears.

BTW, did you know that horse you were riding was not real? Just asking because of your love for George Jr.

What bullshit. You really need to stop getting your news from PrisonPlanet.com or AntiWar.com. Get off your conspiracy horse and come back to reality. Now show me your papers!

Ibby · 03-28-2007, 05:01 PM

If the terrorists have you in such dire fear for your safety that they are changing your actions, making you give up rights, making you do things that you shouldn't, making you terrified...

They've won.

TheMercenary · 03-28-2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibram

If the terrorists have you in such dire fear for your safety that they are changing your actions, making you give up rights, making you do things that you shouldn't, making you terrified...

They've won.

Where did you gather those conlusions. If you are not a little more worried since 9/11 then you are complacent. I am quite comfortable, relaxed, and know that there are a lot of things going on in the world outside our borders by very dedicated individuals who are making sure that we never have a repeat.

My actions have not changed and my rights have not been taken away. On the contrary you have been sold a bill of goods that have made you fear and become terrified that you have lost something you have not. Answer me this, any of you, specifically what has happened DIRECTLY to you where you have lost a right? Anything. Anybody.

BigV · 03-28-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibram

If the terrorists have you in such dire fear for your safety that they are changing your actions, making you give up rights, making you do things that you shouldn't, making you terrified...

They've won.

You're goddamn skippy!

Happy Monkey · 03-28-2007, 05:14 PM

Incorrect.

But what is the relevance of the prior terrorist investigations? Were they too busy to get a FISA warrant, too?

TheMercenary · 03-28-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Incorrect.

But what is the relevance of the prior terrorist investigations? Were they too busy to get a FISA warrant, too?

I have no idea and neither do you. I know that they were conducted and actively chased, and in many cases captured. The dicotomy here is that people whine because of 9/11 and then they whine because actions were taken to prevent another 9/11, you can't have it both ways.

Happy Monkey · 03-28-2007, 05:20 PM

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I have no idea and neither do you. I know that they were conducted and actively chased, and in many cases captured.

And they did it with warrants. Great! Let's go back to that.

TheMercenary · 03-28-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

And they did it with warrants. Great! Let's go back to that.

No, lets not deviate. HM, specifically what has happened DIRECTLY to you where you have lost a right? Anything. Come on, your rights are so under attack, describe your personal loss.

Spexxvet · 03-28-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

No, lets not deviate. HM, specifically what has happened DIRECTLY to you where you have lost a right? Anything. Come on, your rights are so under attack, describe your personal loss.

That's silly. It's like asking you "what terrorism has specifically happened to you, that you're willing to give up these rights?"

03-28-2007, 04:37 PM	#1
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	"unreasonable searches" key word here... I don't find them to be unreasonable at this point. "How can you say the first one is worthy and this one's not?! Who are you to decide which parts of the Constitution are worthy of respect and obedience and which are not?" Who are you to say they are or are not? No better than me in that respect, eh? "What part of warrantless searches do you not understand?" What part of 9/11 do you not understand? What part of terrorism do you not understand? Exactly how often have you traveled to parts of the world where your life is in danger because you are an American before 9/11? What do you do for a living that you feel soooo protected by the ills of people who really do want to kill you and your family and everything about you? It is people that think like you that got us into this mess in the first place and now that concrete steps are taken to change that and prevent future loss you want to dial back the clock. I got news for ya, it ain't happening. Well unless of course Hitlery Clit on is elected and then the Dems will certainly have all the control they desired, and all of the responsibility to keep you safe. Good luck on that last one. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

03-28-2007, 05:01 PM	#8
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	If the terrorists have you in such dire fear for your safety that they are changing your actions, making you give up rights, making you do things that you shouldn't, making you terrified... They've won. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

03-28-2007, 05:14 PM	#11
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Incorrect. But what is the relevance of the prior terrorist investigations? Were they too busy to get a FISA warrant, too? __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

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