Halliburton Bailing Out

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

So first you say he didn't do it, and now you say who cares if he did. Par for the course. Deny deny deny, oops! Who cares, it's old news now.

IMHO Cheney as VP had nothing to do with it and I said I couldn't give a shit if he did. Matters not.

[Flint]

When schoolchildren have a true/false quiz, and they try to write something that looks equally like a T and an F,
the teacher probably just marks it wrong because she can't tell what it's supposed to be (there is no "both") ...

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by Flint

When schoolchildren have a true/false quiz, and they try to write something that looks equally like a T and an F,
the teacher probably just marks it wrong because she can't tell what it's supposed to be (there is no "both").

There is no Dana, only Zuul.....

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Flint

When schoolchildren have a true/false quiz, and they try to write something that looks equally like a T and an F,
the teacher probably just marks it wrong because she can't tell what it's supposed to be (there is no "both") ...

Not in politics and certainly not in war. Things in your world may be black and white, they are not everywhere else.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Things in your world may be black and white ...

Wrong. My point was regarding statements that deliberately look a little like a T and a little like an F, but don't actually commit to either.

[Flint]

That doesn't even make sense. Or, you haven't explained it very well.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Flint

That doesn't even make sense. Or, you haven't explained it very well.

Ok, let's try this tact. You go.

You explain to me why any of this matters. Specifically tell me why Cheney and any connection to KBR/Halliburton matters. And please specifically list any and all companies that you can name that were immediately available and in a position to do the job that KBR/Halliburton did at the time in Sept. 9/11.

Go.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You explain to me why any of this matters. Specifically tell me why Cheney and any connection to KBR/Halliburton matters.

Because, freed of the pressures of competitive bidding and confident in support from the highest echelons of US government, they stole billions of dollars, broke numerous laws, and delivered substandard services to the troops, as mentioned earlier.

And what does Halliburton do that the military didn't do for itself before privatization?

[Flint]

Yeah, what he said.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Flint

Yeah, what he said.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Because, freed of the pressures of competitive bidding and confident in support from the highest echelons of US government, they stole billions of dollars, broke numerous laws, and delivered substandard services to the troops, as mentioned earlier.

And what does Halliburton do that the military didn't do for itself before privatization?

Competitive with whom? Like I stated, since Flint is unable to do it, maybe you could just list me the companies that were in a position to enter that competitive bid process in Sept 9/11? Substandard services? How do you come to that conclusion. You need to be very careful about the time line here. After years had gone by other companies may have emerged that wanted a piece of the big give away of billions of tax dollars, who wouldn't. Hell I even thought about forming one myself.

As to your last question, you must not have read my previous posts, Halliburton/KBR has been around a really long time providing this type of logistical support. In my time they were in Somalia and Bosnia and pretty much everything in between up to and including the present events. Hey post the first year or so I agree there should have been a more equatible approach, provided any company bidding had the ability to fill the bill and meet the needs, very few were.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Competitive with whom? Like I stated, since Flint is unable to do it, maybe you could just list me the companies that were in a position to enter that competitive bid process in Sept 9/11?

I'm not a catering or construction industry expert, but unless you believe that Halliburton would have been the only one to make a bid, the question is irrelevant. And hey, if they had been the only one, they would have won anyway.

Substandard services? How do you come to that conclusion.

I had an earlier post with links. But you can google spoiled food, poisoned water supply, and trucks abandoned for flat tires and other minor mechanical issues for a start.

As to your last question, you must not have read my previous posts, Halliburton/KBR has been around a really long time providing this type of logistical support.

I'm not especially old, but Bush 1 isn't a really long time ago.

[Shawnee123]

[TheMercenary]

Hey, I am really interested in this debate. So you all have at it. Tell me why it is important.

[Flint]

Cheney, now, the then head of those people, who is now the head of the other thing, he did some stuff. The time of the doing was then for some things and now for some others, but we have to support the troops! Support the troops! He didn't do alot of things, and at the time, this was probably not one of the things he wasn't not connected with, that is, if you hate America you might think so. Anyways, who cares? The important thing is support the troops and the other thing isn't, because who cares about the thing, because I already said that. God Bless America.