Were you surprised

[9th Engineer]

Think about it, the wealthy arn't stupid (the vast majority aren't, admit it), so they do understand the benefits that come from charity. But when you're asked to give to a group that's hissing at you and yelling about how you're nothing but a amoralistic thief who's only good deed would be handing over the cash and shutting up, you tend to shut the door and lock it. I'm saying that the antipathy the liberal party generates toward the wealthy is extremely counter productive, that's all.

[Aliantha]

You're assuming that all wealthy people are right leaning.

[9th Engineer]

I'm running with the idea based on the majority, which I'm pretty sure are right leaning. My point wouldn't really apply to wealthy liberals anyway. I wish there was a distincion made between multimillionare wealthy and highly paid professional wealthy though, the later tends to get lumped in with the former.

[Aliantha]

I think you might be surprised if you looked into the statistics.

[tw]

Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

Think about it, the wealthy arn't stupid ...But when you're asked to give to a group that's hissing at you and yelling about how you're nothing but a amoralistic thief who's only good deed would be handing over the cash and shutting up, you tend to shut the door and lock it.

Do you routinely speculate without first consulting the facts? Did you bother to notice who is doing so much of the complaining about our tax structure?

Warren Buffet long ago was quite blunt about how stupid the American tax structure has become. As he noted, his receptions pays higher percentages of taxes than he does. The rich typically pay less taxes (by percentage) than most other taxpayers. And even the rich are complaining about how stupid our tax structure has become.

But try to explain that to politicians. Do you do your own taxes? They don't. Tax structure has become so complex, so distorted, and so nonsensical that all Congressmen have their taxes done for them by the government. Taxes are now too complex even for lawmakers to do.

Ask yourself why even the rich complain about our totally perverted, unfair, and unnecessarily complex tax laws - before just speculating that you know what they must think.

I'm running with the idea based on the majority, which I'm pretty sure are right leaning.

Intelligent people are neither left nor right leaning. Those with such political agendas tend to be the politically dumb. Intelligent people are fact leaning - don't have political agendas.

Fact that you would assoicatae yourself with right leaning explains why you have speculated rather than first learn what rich people are saying.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I was reading a company report about the compensation paid to the corporate bigwigs. The CEO gets $150,000, every year, to pay the people that do his personal tax returns. Presumably these people are trying to reduce his obligation to the taxman as much as legally possible and that's very complicated.

[yesman065]

Originally Posted by tw

Fact that you would assoicatae yourself with right leaning explains why you have speculated rather than first learn what rich people are saying.

Hmm, now who is now making assumptions? Looks like you are stating that all who you consider right leaning speculate.

[9th Engineer]

He also assumes I'm wealthy, which is bizzar because I've made no secret of the fact that I'm a student instead of some 40-something head of an engineering firm (or something of that sort).

EDIT...

Fact that you would assoicatae yourself with right leaning explains why you have speculated rather than first learn what rich people are saying.

tw should never comment on anyones grammer after this little number

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

You're assuming that all wealthy people are right leaning.

The exceptions to that tend to be the ones that make the headlines, viz., George Soros. Count the ways on him: a Jewish antizionist, a communist billionaire. The man amounts to a suicidal neurotic, and the harder you look at him the crazier his motivations and actions seem. All you can conclude is plenty of dollars, not enough sense. He seems driven by an access of an excess of guilt. Surely it's not all because he's Hungarian.

Shoulda made his own money? I dunno. I thought he made most of his own fortune at least.

The wealthy, particularly the self-made, like to keep the economic game to rules they understand and have succeeded at. Nothing astonishing there. Life's winners tend to vote conservative -- it's what happens with success in business. And success in business isn't of itself limited to a certain population.

The American Jewish vote used to run as heavily Republican as it runs Democratic now. However they started out, American Jews, on getting rich in business, went Republican, the party of business, in a big way. The changeover was during FDR's Administration, when activist, then welfarist, government became, for some time, fashionable.

And yet another for the bulging "attacks on tw" file: two T's in Warren Buffett, dumb ass. Your grasp of written English is still a match for your grasp of issues. You cannot persuade unless you master a better grade of English -- or of copyediting. Bad writing is the spawn of bad thinking. Note that I invariably write well.

[Aliantha]

UG...get back to us with some figures before you try to refute a statement that doesn't even suggest that I am trying to argue the opposite.

I don't know if left or right have more money, but I suspect it's not quite as cut and dried as some would have us believe.

Remember, many people in the entertainment industry are left leaning, and they're definitely politically active also, not to mention filthy rich. (that's just something to think on. I have no figures to support what their political preferences are.)

It's actually a fact that more poor people vote conservative than liberal though, so that's something to think about too.

[tw]

Originally Posted by yesman065

Hmm, now who is now making assumptions?

Wow. You found a typographical error. That justified your contempt of the American soldier; your claims that more die on highways so soldiers are expendable. Well you must celebrate every little victory you can find because of that contempt you just posted for the American soldier. You owe every American solder a major and very repentant apology.

Of course your insulting the entire site does not fall under this... riiiiiiiight?

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by tw

Wow. You found a typographical error.

I'll let one stand for many thousand, tw. This seems addressed to me.

But now you seem quite confused as to whom you make reply:

That justified your contempt of the American soldier; your claims that more die on highways so soldiers are expendable. Well you must celebrate every little victory you can find because of that contempt you just posted for the American soldier. You owe every American solder a major and very repentant apology.

I'm certainly nonplused.

The kindest thing to say is that this is incredibly slipshod copyediting.