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Old 10-24-2006, 01:51 PM   #1
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There's nothing irrational about the spiritual world, we just haven't created the mechanisms yet that render it measurable and quantifiable on a purely physical level. A lot of it is hooey, some of it isn't. There are too many objective, unrelated accounts that point to the same thing to be able to discount them all. If science is eventually able to figure it all out, it won't be because it's able to squish everything into its current template of how the world works.

When phrenology was big, do you think that any of the scientists involved could have grasped a concept like modern neurology? And what we know today will seem laughably crude in 200 years.
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Old 10-24-2006, 01:52 PM   #2
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I would substitute for harshly: serenely, implacably, and indifferently
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:50 PM   #3
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I had a Ouija board as a kid ... everybody did, didn't they? I never had one bit of success with it ... not sure if that was lucky or unlucky. I was more of a Magic 8-Ball girl, and had my first fortune telling deck at 10 years old and my first tarot deck at 13.

I did have to do an exorcism on a friend's kid's Ouija board once, though.
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Old 10-24-2006, 11:16 PM   #4
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Ouija boards? Meh. That's kid stuff.

On the other hand, some truly dreadful, terrifying things can be conjured using nothing more than a bottle of tequila and a copy of Chutes and Ladders.

I'm pretty sure that's how Barbra Streisand was able to cross over into our plane of existence.
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Old 10-25-2006, 09:00 AM   #5
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Ouija boards? Meh. That's kid stuff.

On the other hand, some truly dreadful, terrifying things can be conjured using nothing more than a bottle of tequila and a copy of Chutes and Ladders.

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Old 10-25-2006, 12:16 AM   #6
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You have a very, very good point.

I often wonder about Hillary Clinton. Clearly 8th Circle of Hell material.

Long time no see, HB!!
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Old 10-25-2006, 01:12 PM   #7
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It's a tricky passage, because only tw has the power to define "reality" . . .
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Old 10-28-2006, 12:23 AM   #8
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It's a tricky passage, because only tw has the power to define "reality" . . .
I thought only Chuck Norris could do that.
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Old 10-28-2006, 12:25 AM   #9
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Yes, but only once, and then the Universe ends.
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Old 10-25-2006, 02:45 PM   #10
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Old 10-25-2006, 02:46 PM   #11
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My Magic 8 ball says: Decidedly so.
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Old 10-25-2006, 02:58 PM   #12
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Old 10-25-2006, 03:17 PM   #13
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I despise the word "supernatural" . . . it suggests a silly two-tiered nature, which would, after all, just be nature anyway.
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Old 10-25-2006, 03:56 PM   #14
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Flint has it. Just saying the thing is "supernatural" applies some layer of meaning preceding understanding. "I don't know what it is, therefore it is supernatural," is exactly like the current intelligent design approach, in which everything we don't have an ironclad scientific explanation for is conveniently filled in by God. "I don't know why it happened, but it was a supreme being's will."

That said, Spode, I mean no disrespect even to point out that our belief systems are inherently different. After all, I am often wrong.
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Old 10-25-2006, 04:04 PM   #15
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That said, Spode, I mean no disrespect even to point out that our belief systems are inherently different. After all, I am often wrong.
And I am wrong at least as often as I am right. No one needs to apologize to anyone for their belief system, as long as they aren't shoving it down the other person's throat.
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