Religion: Good or Bad? - Page 4

08-28-2006, 10:45 AM

It is pretty simple... If it is your relationship with The Question or The Other, it is spirituality... if it is your relationship with others, religion.
Where religion likes to try to blur that line is to impose rules on your relationship, but those are your choice to accept or discard... once done, they become part of your personal spirituality and still not part of religion.
Again, just a club.

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Originally Posted by Flint

Religion tries as hard as it can to get confused with Spirituality, so what do you expect?

Hence the removal of the Gospel of Thomas... where Jesus discusses your PERSONAL relationship with God so much... Hmmmmm?

Flint · 08-28-2006, 10:56 AM

Well...we souldn't want any nasty Gnosticism spreading!

08-28-2006, 10:58 AM

That was only made Gnostic once they got a good whiff of what it was saying... it has the most direct text of his actual language and is the most verifiable of the books, written, most likely, by his brother. The problem is that it undermines the power of the church.

Flint · 08-28-2006, 11:21 AM

Oh, I know, man. I'm right there with you on this.

Edit: It's my favorite Gospel. It's integral. Necessary to understanding the message.

Pangloss62 · 08-28-2006, 11:45 AM

Flint · 08-28-2006, 11:49 AM

'UTTIN' ON THE 'IIITZ!!!

Pangloss62 · 08-28-2006, 11:59 AM

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'UTTIN' ON THE 'IIITZ!!!

Help me with this one.

08-28-2006, 12:02 PM

You would have to watch the film... "Putting on the Ritz" with a speech impediment.

Pangloss62 · 08-28-2006, 01:24 PM

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You would have to watch the film... "Putting on the Ritz" with a speech impediment.

How does one just aquire a speech impediment? I thought such impediments were congenital. I suppose I could fake it.

08-28-2006, 02:44 PM

Good one. The film is Young Frankenstein.

Pangloss62 · 08-29-2006, 03:00 PM

I finally got it. What a dumb ass I am.

Good movie. My very own father took me to see that when I was about 14. For a 14-year-old, it sure was a lot more fun than watching The Conversation, another movie he took me to see.

skysidhe · 08-30-2006, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

:::click::: Goodbye forever, crazy bitch.

That dramatic 'good bye forever' bit was funny as hell. I still laugh about when I think about it how pathetic it is

You could have done that quietly without all the drama and the inflamatory name calling. Unfortunatly it didn't work. You're still here.

ho-hum , gawd you're annoying.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-02-2006, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by skysidhe

aww, you're right of course and I think you're sweet for being so nice about it. I could just hug you. You cellaries are nice. I like nice.

That's not exactly true.
Just between you and me..

....there a people here....please, no names,...that would tie you up, snip off your clothing with nail clippers and do things that can't be discussed in polite company.
I felt you should be warned.

09-06-2006, 03:26 AM

Politics - the manipulation of people's social beliefs. Religion - the manipulation of people's spiritual beliefs. Both are, yet again, examples of the herd mentality (mine's bigger than yours). When we as a species lose the arrogant assumption (based on fear) that we are somehow special within the universe and not just another animal (a clever one at that) who did good in the class of life, the better off we'll all be. There are billions of galaxies in the universe with billions of stars, do think God/lifeforce/whatever gives a rat's ass what you get up to under the sheets of life? (And why's God and his prophets always male? I'm talking about the big multi-national, fundamentalist religions here) People fear death, difference and change, religions make you feel cozy, safe and wanted. Religions aren't worth the taking of one, single life. Wake up, we're merely God dreaming!

What really puts a smile on my face when the religious kick off with their sanctimonious, self righteous, don't question the Lord/Allah bullshit, is the fact that one day they'll die, and THAT is when they'll find out once and for all what the 'Truth' really is. And deep down they know that particular truth of being alive, and it scares the life out of them. Why do you think 'non-believers' get the verbal and physical crap kicked out of them? Because non-believers are a constant reminder that all religions are just a point of view and have no validity other than that which we give them.

Bugger me sideways, this kind of talk could go on forever! Sod this, I'm off to get on with living and enjoying my life, I'll meet God, or as the Sioux indians call it, the Great Mysterious, when I'm dead.

Pangloss62 · 09-06-2006, 09:16 AM

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Bugger me sideways, this kind of talk could go on forever! Sod this,

Those British blokes make my day.

08-28-2006, 10:56 AM	#47
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Well...we souldn't want any nasty Gnosticism spreading! __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

08-28-2006, 11:21 AM	#49
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Oh, I know, man. I'm right there with you on this. Edit: It's my favorite Gospel. It's integral. Necessary to understanding the message. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio** Last edited by Flint; 08-28-2006 at 11:29 AM.

08-28-2006, 11:45 AM	#50
Pangloss62 Lecturer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 768	In The Right Spirit __________________ Things are never as good, or bad, as they seem.

08-28-2006, 11:49 AM	#51
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	'UTTIN' ON THE 'IIITZ!!! __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

08-29-2006, 03:00 PM	#56
Pangloss62 Lecturer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 768	Ohhhhh!!! I finally got it. What a dumb ass I am. Good movie. My very own father took me to see that when I was about 14. For a 14-year-old, it sure was a lot more fun than watching The Conversation, another movie he took me to see. __________________ Things are never as good, or bad, as they seem.

08-28-2006, 10:58 AM	#48
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	That was only made Gnostic once they got a good whiff of what it was saying... it has the most direct text of his actual language and is the most verifiable of the books, written, most likely, by his brother. The problem is that it undermines the power of the church.

08-28-2006, 12:02 PM	#53
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	You would have to watch the film... "Putting on the Ritz" with a speech impediment.

08-28-2006, 02:44 PM	#55
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Good one. The film is Young Frankenstein.

09-06-2006, 03:26 AM	#59
Tin Man Guest Posts: n/a	Politics - the manipulation of people's social beliefs. Religion - the manipulation of people's spiritual beliefs. Both are, yet again, examples of the herd mentality (mine's bigger than yours). When we as a species lose the arrogant assumption (based on fear) that we are somehow special within the universe and not just another animal (a clever one at that) who did good in the class of life, the better off we'll all be. There are billions of galaxies in the universe with billions of stars, do think God/lifeforce/whatever gives a rat's ass what you get up to under the sheets of life? (And why's God and his prophets always male? I'm talking about the big multi-national, fundamentalist religions here) People fear death, difference and change, religions make you feel cozy, safe and wanted. Religions aren't worth the taking of one, single life. Wake up, we're merely God dreaming! What really puts a smile on my face when the religious kick off with their sanctimonious, self righteous, don't question the Lord/Allah bullshit, is the fact that one day they'll die, and THAT is when they'll find out once and for all what the 'Truth' really is. And deep down they know that particular truth of being alive, and it scares the life out of them. Why do you think 'non-believers' get the verbal and physical crap kicked out of them? Because non-believers are a constant reminder that all religions are just a point of view and have no validity other than that which we give them. Bugger me sideways, this kind of talk could go on forever! Sod this, I'm off to get on with living and enjoying my life, I'll meet God, or as the Sioux indians call it, the Great Mysterious, when I'm dead. Last edited by Tin Man; 09-06-2006 at 03:48 AM.

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