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Old 02-06-2003, 06:24 PM   #46
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Pretzels and beer
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Old 02-06-2003, 11:13 PM   #47
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What does he taste like?
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Pretzels and beer
To win the all so prized Hispanic vote, and because polls say it is the most popular - I would have guessed Salsa.
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Old 02-07-2003, 07:33 PM   #48
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Nah, he just rolls out George P. or Columba when needed.
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Old 02-07-2003, 08:22 PM   #49
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Nah, he just rolls out George P. or Columba when needed.
Unfortunately Columbia didn't roll. It yawwed too much
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Old 02-09-2003, 04:58 PM   #50
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Time's up. Bush has never requested a cut in the NASA budget, and never ever will.
From today's NY Times:
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Officials said that project ran into serious technical problems, and its costs spiraled. As a result of the cancellations, the Bush administration proposed cutting some $530 million over six years from the budget for safety and performance upgrades to the shuttle; the money was no longer needed, officials said.
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The troubled 1999 mission prompted the Clinton administration to change course and pump new money and employees into the shuttle program — only to see the Bush administration propose sharp cutbacks in spending on safety upgrades. ...

But Mr. Clinton did embrace one change: pushing NASA to do what would have once been unthinkable by joining forces with the Russians in building the International Space Station. The venture was meant to foster a new spirit of East-West cooperation and keep Russian rocket scientists from selling their services to rogue states. ...

According to the General Accounting Office, by late 2000 NASA was planning to develop and equip the shuttle fleet with some $2.2 billion in safety upgrades — "making it the most aggressive modification effort ever undertaken by the shuttle program." ...

The Bush Years Battles for Money, Concerns for Safety
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By April 2002, NASA had decided to cancel three planned safety upgrades, including a plan to switch the shuttle's auxiliary power unit from a highly flammable fuel to a safer electrical system. Officials said that project ran into serious technical problems, and its costs spiraled. As a result of the cancellations, the Bush administration proposed cutting some $530 million over six years from the budget for safety and performance upgrades to the shuttle; the money was no longer needed, officials said.
It is unlikely that these budget cuts had a direct effect on Columbia. But they were so severe that some NASA people wrote personal letters directly to George Jr demanding that the president stop all shuttle flights before someone got killed.

In the meantime, maintenance on shuttle heat tiles, once performed by a Lockheed(?) facility in CA, was recently transfered to a whole new organization in FL. This new organization apparently was even unfamiliar with a benchmark 1990 report (by a lady engineer with a notable accent) that detailed shuttle tile failure modes and that had created many changes to how shuttle tiles were applied and maintained.

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Old 02-09-2003, 05:47 PM   #51
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Unlikely that the proposed cuts affected Columbia, yessir I should say so.

Bush has never requested a cut in NASAs budget, and never ever will. That the NYT found $500M over 6 years of PROPOSED cuts inside an ACTUAL increase and wrote a negative story about it, including the grumblings of a Democratic Rep from Florida, does not surprise me in the least. The NYT is highly partisan and so are you.
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Old 02-09-2003, 05:50 PM   #52
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Look you stoopid bastard, if it's printed in the NY Times, then it's gonna happen. You just don't get it, do you?
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Old 02-09-2003, 05:51 PM   #53
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I gotta stop completely editing my posts one minute after posting them.
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Old 02-09-2003, 05:55 PM   #54
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Okay, paint me stoopid here, but what's up with the lady with a notable accent? And how does this accent affect the current situation at NASA?
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Old 02-09-2003, 06:05 PM   #55
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The NYT is highly partisan and so are you.
Heh heh heh. TW, you are HIGHLY PARTISAN! Strong words, UT. Make 'im cry.
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Old 02-09-2003, 06:14 PM   #56
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Tw is also never wrong. Never ever ever ever ever wrong. I defer to his incredible intelligence. I am completely unworthy, and only half the man that he is. I don't even know why any of us bother to call him out time and time again...we are mental midgets compared to this brainiac.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go back to sucking face with the president...
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