Bush goes out his with usual class

[Trilby]

People, let's all take a page from the excellent movie FORGETTING SARAH MARSHALL and sodomize intolerance!

hope that helps.

btw--all three of them? I thought it was just tw and merc. Who else is being all crazed and stuff?

[Aliantha]

My reasoning is that it's inappropriate to bring someone's spouse into a discussion in a derogatory manner simply for the sake of insult.

My personal opinion is that this type of behaviour is never appropriate regardless of what forum you're on although I do accept that other people have different views. It's just bad form to insult someone who is not in a position to defend themselves.

With regard to the situation between Merc and tw; my opinion is that Merc has been goading tw with his quotes, but (and it's a big but) he's really just been posting what a lot of the posters here see/think when they see another tw post that goes on for ages. I don't condone it and I think it's childish, but it's true that the truth often comes from the mouths of babes. If tw were to respond in kind by doing the same thing to Merc I wouldn't care. I'd say let them both go hard for as long as they like, but what tw said was simply disgusting and rude. There was no humorous intent (which I believe was Mercs intention in the first place but may have gone too far), simply nastiness.

I think this site is well moderated and while I see your point with regard to this issue, I believe a moderator should have licence to make a decision based on his or her assessment of the situation without having to be called to answer for it. Whether others deserve to be banned or not is not in question here. The issue is that Bruce has warned tw that his post was inappropriate and tw can either choose to ignore that warning and proceed to banning for future similar offences, or he can continue to post here.

If Bruce had simply banned him without a warning I think it would have been rough, but he has been warned (and I assume that warning would apply to anyone else thinking of being just as rude). It's up to tw what he chooses to do from here.

[monster]

you. we were talking about you. ALL. THIS. TIME.


(this was a response to Brianna) eta because Ali got caught in the middle....

[TheMercenary]

Someone let me know so I can let loose with my diatribe. I am ready.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

that concerns me greatly. you wink, but i wonder.
if tw gets banned over this.....then you'd better ban spexxvet, and merc and me too.

What, that was really you and not Jinx. Fuck off, ya cock.

Originally Posted by jinx

If she's not here I really don't see the problem....

I do.

But other people seemed to think it crossed a line as well and I'm am seriously wondering why.

Because it's unacceptable in every society, not just here.

Unless you feel that a woman's character or worth is defined by her chastity, why would you get bent out of shape by some crazy person calling her a "whore"?

He went beyond that, but in any case I don't buy your strawman.

Intolerably annoying I'll give you, all 3 of them are imo. But if we're going to start banning people for content, shouldn't we at least discuss it first? The cellar is a community, right? And while I really appreciate how much you personally do for the cellar, but I'm uncomfortable with that giving you license to ban people who haven't crossed a previously established line.

Uncomfortable or not, that's the way it is. It can be changed.

[jinx]

What strawman?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Unless you feel that a woman's character or worth is defined by her chastity

That strawman.

[jinx]

So you're not taking issue with the whore comments specifically, it's entirely about tw insulting someone who is not a member?

[TheMercenary]

Good God. If it were you LJ would be loading a shotgun.

[lumberjim]

actually, merc...spexvet did get pretty nasty and graphic about jinx when we were going at it.....no one wanted him banned for it though.....toughen up. you prodded him relentlessly and he snapped out at you. move on.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

actually, merc...spexvet did get pretty nasty and graphic about jinx when we were going at it.....no one wanted him banned for it though.....toughen up. you prodded him relentlessly and he snapped out at you. move on.

I have. Note I have only made one softball comment since yesterday. I have received my marching orders from the peeps in charge and that is that.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I didn't say that. Let me spell it out for you.
There is never an occasion when insulting a member's family contributes to the conversation. That makes it intolerably irritating. Therefore, unless introduced to the discussion by the member, their family is off limits.

[jinx]

I didn't say you said anything, I asked questions I wanted to know the answer to. Thank you for gracing me with a response sire.

[xoxoxoBruce]

That's why I detailed my position.
I'm not your sire, nor your dam.
btw, both are family members and off limits.

So are Griff's goats. :p

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I didn't say that. Let me spell it out for you.
There is never an occasion when insulting a member's family contributes to the conversation. That makes it intolerably irritating. Therefore, unless introduced to the discussion by the member, their family is off limits.

Just a question. Since I often say things like 'Dazza says...' does that mean he's within the limits and people can take potshots if they like?

I've been thinking about it and can't come up with a decision either way really because usually when I quote him, it's because he's said it when I've read something out to him from the cellar so in effect, it is him saying it. On the other hand, if someone wanted to question his opinions which I've quoted, I'd hope they'd stick to the opinions in question and not resort to personal insults.