Alcoholism - Page 4

wolf · 05-17-2005, 10:23 PM

If you're willing to take the risk of dying if you fall off the wagon (or use certain brands of aftershave or mouthwash), ask your MD about Antabuse.

busterb · 05-18-2005, 07:55 AM

Wolf. Tnxs for words about my garden. the above post was made kinda tongue in cheek

I tried the meds before. They just give you 14 days to dream up ingenious ways to really get on a good drunk

After you stop taking them.

Trilby · 05-18-2005, 03:44 PM

Once again, busterb, you've hit the nail on the freakin' head.

Gwennie! · 05-18-2005, 05:59 PM

Good stuff, busterb. The economy of scale works against us if we can't stop until it's all gone. And the words in the image above ring true.

We would do the same thing over and over, hoping for a different outcome. Now that we've changed, we can have a different outcome.

busterb · 05-19-2005, 09:05 AM

Stolen from a Chuck Logan book. "Heard a counselor decribe alcoholism as a progressive diease, implying that just because you stopped putting alcohol in your mouth, it didn't mean the condition was cured. It continued to grow inside like an invisible vampire. Take a drink after ten years, and the vampire sitting on your chest was ten years older and stronger than the last time you saw him,"

Trilby · 05-23-2005, 10:36 AM

Back from the horror that is our court system. Treatment in lieu of conviction. Lots of shit to go thru but if I do it all felony will be wiped off record. Yay.

My stupid computer has a virus so at library now...standing up and trying to type that way. Keyboard sticks, too.

Hang in there, busterb. and thanks to everyone for the good wishes.

Clodfobble · 05-23-2005, 10:42 AM

I'm happy it turned out ok for you, Brianna. Let us know how the treatment program's going.

jaguar · 05-23-2005, 11:07 AM

hey, good stuff Bri, glad to hear you won't have to leave us. Let us know if you need computer help as well.

lookout123 · 05-23-2005, 11:25 AM

yayy for Brianna. glad to hear that things are looking up, if still difficult.

Trilby · 05-23-2005, 11:28 AM

Thanks, all!

jag--nasty spyware stuff and I downloaded spyware protection from AOL (remember, I am very computer illiterate-) but seems too little, too late. All these infernal pop ups keep me from signing on because my computer freezes...I don't get anywhere. Do I have to pay 200.00 for the Geek Squad to come out?

BTW--I start IOP soon at a place called

footfootfoot · 05-23-2005, 11:59 AM

Congratulations Brianna.
Good luck on the recovery.
Glad, as well, you're not gonna leave.

cjjulie · 05-23-2005, 01:06 PM

After 15 years sober, my husband started drinking again. He thinks that he is 'in a different place and state of mind' in his life. He has been sober for our entire married life. It is strange to see him drink, something I am getting used to. So far he has been able to control it/himself. We are both very level headed laid back people and sometimes I question wether he really was an 'alcoholic' at all. I mostly think he was just young, unhappy and under pressure from his father.
(His father is very controlling) It does help him relax and he is able to have more fun with our children, not be so uptight. Hopefully everything will stay on the 'strait and narrow' as it were....time will tell.

Hope all goes well for you busterb and Brianna

Gwennie! · 05-23-2005, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna

jag--nasty spyware stuff and I downloaded spyware protection from AOL (remember, I am very computer illiterate-) but seems too little, too late. All these infernal pop ups keep me from signing on because my computer freezes...I don't get anywhere. Do I have to pay 200.00 for the Geek Squad to come out?

Hey Girlfriend, This is what you need to get rid of them nasties:

Ad-Aware
Windows 98/Me/NT/2000/XP

Free Download for personal edition. Works great.

Gwennie! · 05-23-2005, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjjulie

After 15 years sober, my husband started drinking again. He thinks that he is 'in a different place and state of mind' in his life. He has been sober for our entire married life. It is strange to see him drink, something I am getting used to. So far he has been able to control it/himself. We are both very level headed laid back people and sometimes I question wether he really was an 'alcoholic' at all. I mostly think he was just young, unhappy and under pressure from his father.
(His father is very controlling) It does help him relax and he is able to have more fun with our children, not be so uptight. Hopefully everything will stay on the 'strait and narrow' as it were....time will tell.

Hope all goes well for you busterb and Brianna

There's no Litmus Test for Alcoholism. I believe in this part of the disease concept: once one crosses the line into Alchoholism, there is no going back, biologically. The question is whether someone has crossed the line or not.

In the AA Big Book they say "If a man can drink like a Gentleman, hat's off to him".

Through AA meetings and such, I've come to realize how many of us had very controlling and dominating same-gender parents. In my case Step 4 was a long and rewarding process of dealing with resentments rather than numbing myself to them.

"Break a Leg."

cowhead · 05-24-2005, 03:03 AM

I did AA for quite some time, however I was young and my inate arrogance didn't help.. I got sick of sitting around listening to people bitch about how much they wanted to drink.. the thing is I have given up pills/Marijuana/acid etc. the thing is.. alcohol.. damn that fucker! although I have a bet with a friend (we've known eachother for about 18 years) that june 1st to july 30th no alcohol.. tell you what.. it's going to suck.. I know I'm addicted no doubt about that.. but as I said I quit everything else (hell! i'm almost off of coffee! down to 3 cups a day! for me.. that's amazing)... anyway, the thing is that we all need somehting to fall back on.. when in need the problem comes when you do things for that fall back rather than the inverse (if that makes sense) anyway, sorry I have had tyhe insomnia somthing fearsome.. so my thoughts might not flow in a sensible sort of way, I apologize... anyway! Brianna good luck, busterb good luck as well.. just take it one minute at a time if need be, yeah It's hard but.. there are some things in life worth fighting for, and I promins once you get used to it, the whole world opens up in a very different way... hang on you'll see.

05-17-2005, 10:23 PM	#46
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	If you're willing to take the risk of dying if you fall off the wagon (or use certain brands of aftershave or mouthwash), ask your MD about Antabuse. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

05-18-2005, 07:55 AM	#47
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	Wolf. Tnxs for words about my garden. the above post was made kinda tongue in cheek I tried the meds before. They just give you 14 days to dream up ingenious ways to really get on a good drunk After you stop taking them. Attached Images __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch. Last edited by busterb; 05-18-2005 at 07:56 AM. Reason: add

05-18-2005, 03:44 PM	#48
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Once again, busterb, you've hit the nail on the freakin' head. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

05-18-2005, 05:59 PM	#49
Gwennie! Not Female at Birth Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Anaheim Posts: 166	Good stuff, busterb. The economy of scale works against us if we can't stop until it's all gone. And the words in the image above ring true. We would do the same thing over and over, hoping for a different outcome. Now that we've changed, we can have a different outcome. __________________ Only The Crumbliest Flakiest Gwennie!

05-19-2005, 09:05 AM	#50
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	Stolen from a Chuck Logan book. "Heard a counselor decribe alcoholism as a progressive diease, implying that just because you stopped putting alcohol in your mouth, it didn't mean the condition was cured. It continued to grow inside like an invisible vampire. Take a drink after ten years, and the vampire sitting on your chest was ten years older and stronger than the last time you saw him," __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

05-23-2005, 10:36 AM	#51
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Back from the horror that is our court system. Treatment in lieu of conviction. Lots of shit to go thru but if I do it all felony will be wiped off record. Yay. My stupid computer has a virus so at library now...standing up and trying to type that way. Keyboard sticks, too. Hang in there, busterb. and thanks to everyone for the good wishes. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

05-23-2005, 10:42 AM	#52
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	I'm happy it turned out ok for you, Brianna. Let us know how the treatment program's going. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

05-23-2005, 11:07 AM	#53
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	hey, good stuff Bri, glad to hear you won't have to leave us. Let us know if you need computer help as well. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

05-23-2005, 11:25 AM	#54
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	yayy for Brianna. glad to hear that things are looking up, if still difficult. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

05-23-2005, 11:28 AM	#55
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Thanks, all! jag--nasty spyware stuff and I downloaded spyware protection from AOL (remember, I am very computer illiterate-) but seems too little, too late. All these infernal pop ups keep me from signing on because my computer freezes...I don't get anywhere. Do I have to pay 200.00 for the Geek Squad to come out? BTW--I start IOP soon at a place called __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum Last edited by Trilby; 05-24-2005 at 10:32 AM.

05-23-2005, 11:59 AM	#56
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Congratulations Brianna. Good luck on the recovery. Glad, as well, you're not gonna leave. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

05-23-2005, 01:06 PM	#57
cjjulie Colonist Extraordinaire Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: CT Posts: 201	After 15 years sober, my husband started drinking again. He thinks that he is 'in a different place and state of mind' in his life. He has been sober for our entire married life. It is strange to see him drink, something I am getting used to. So far he has been able to control it/himself. We are both very level headed laid back people and sometimes I question wether he really was an 'alcoholic' at all. I mostly think he was just young, unhappy and under pressure from his father. (His father is very controlling) It does help him relax and he is able to have more fun with our children, not be so uptight. Hopefully everything will stay on the 'strait and narrow' as it were....time will tell. Hope all goes well for you busterb and Brianna __________________ Fun,Fearless,Female

05-24-2005, 03:03 AM	#60
cowhead halve your cake and eat it too. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Georgia.. by way of Lawrence Kansas Posts: 1,359	I did AA for quite some time, however I was young and my inate arrogance didn't help.. I got sick of sitting around listening to people bitch about how much they wanted to drink.. the thing is I have given up pills/Marijuana/acid etc. the thing is.. alcohol.. damn that fucker! although I have a bet with a friend (we've known eachother for about 18 years) that june 1st to july 30th no alcohol.. tell you what.. it's going to suck.. I know I'm addicted no doubt about that.. but as I said I quit everything else (hell! i'm almost off of coffee! down to 3 cups a day! for me.. that's amazing)... anyway, the thing is that we all need somehting to fall back on.. when in need the problem comes when you do things for that fall back rather than the inverse (if that makes sense) anyway, sorry I have had tyhe insomnia somthing fearsome.. so my thoughts might not flow in a sensible sort of way, I apologize... anyway! Brianna good luck, busterb good luck as well.. just take it one minute at a time if need be, yeah It's hard but.. there are some things in life worth fighting for, and I promins once you get used to it, the whole world opens up in a very different way... hang on you'll see. __________________ no my child.. this is not my desire..I'm digging for fire.

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