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Again, those who run BBQ establishments, nail salons, or any other business with any other type of fume or smoke does not need to ask; because, as long as they meet OSHA air standards, it is their choice and the public decides to shop there or not. I have always found it very humorous that the antis make it sound as if they have no choice but to be in an establishment, as if they did not know people smoke there or not... very silly. Also, just because I smoke a pipe and cigars does not mean I agree with all tobacco companies tactics any more than I agree with what Coke and Pepsi does with stealing water and polluting from third world nations, GM and Ford with economic manipulations with the same and as an American and patriot, supporting all this nation does. Just dumb. |
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Ban smoking in all public establishments and no one's rights are violated. None. No one. |
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Don't be tolerant, you are free not to be, just like I don't like the smell of stores that have tons of potpourri and nail salons... I just don't go in there, even though that is what those people do on their private property and want in their shops.
I have brains enough to do that without being so egomaniacal that I feel that I have to force everyone to do what I like, I guess some don't. |
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Okay then, tw, take me for example. I get AWFUL migranes from certain smells, sometimes. The nearly visible cloud of perfume and cologne that surrounds the beauty section of most department stores is absolutely awful to me. But do I say that nobody should be allowed to sell or even wear perfume because the smell gives me excruciating headaches? No, I just shop somewhere else or avoid that section of the store.
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Notice the minute one of those perfumes puts out a toxic odor, that perfume must be immediately eliminated. It's not about what you 'feel'. Its about science and logic. Cigarette smoke is an attack not on how you 'feel'. It is an attack on the public health. |
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erika
Join Date: Apr 2006
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So migranes are less harmful to me than a whiff of smoke?
I lived in Beijing, where the air was more smoke than not, for three years. I dont have lung cancer. I feel no ill effects of the smoke. If three years of breathing it almost constantly didnt hurt me, but two seconds sniffing concentrated perfume gives me a blinding migrane, I'd personally say the perfume is more of a threat to me.
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No shit... I hate it when someone sprays that crap on and gets into an elevator. So rude.
Let's outlaw it!!! LOL... sound familiar? "Slam dunk" dur. The acetone in a nail salon is toxic as are cooking fumes, but no one wants to outlaw those establishments... as they should not. Because we believe in freedom. Quote:
Again, not all who smoke are addicted, are you having trouble reading this? Seems like you are the one on drugs. Last edited by rkzenrage; 07-06-2006 at 01:51 PM. |
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erika
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Now I've said this before, but before tw flips out at me for it, I'm going to pre-emptively defend myself (LYK O NO U PREMTVLY DEFNDED U R LYK MENTL MIGET!!!one!1!eleven). I am personally against smoking in general, and if someone was smoking around me I would ask them to stop, probably. I would be one of the people who goes the the OTHER restaurant. But I completely support the right of anyone to do what they want on their own private property.
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As would I.
I don't like smoke around my food and don't like cigarette smoke. But, I like being a fascist much less. |
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Meanwhile, I believe everyone agrees with this: right of anyone to do what they want on their own private property. Not to be confused with a privately owned public establishment. |
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Bioengineer and aspiring lawer
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By the argument being made public nudity should also be legal. Damned be those who don't want to look at certain parts of peoples bodies! After all, it's that person's body not yours and you can choose not to look.
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And the fault in the logic about the perfume example is that while both perfume and cigarette smoke extend beyond the user of the product, the vast majority of people exposed to perfume suffer no ill health effects from such exposure. In contrast, the vast majority of people exposed to cigarette smoke do suffer ill health effects.
It's a public health issue.
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