1/30/2006: Caning - Page 4

barefoot serpent · 01-31-2006, 10:06 AM

Let he, who be without sin, cast the first stone.

maybe that explains the mask?

...oops, wrong religion.

Kitsune · 01-31-2006, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mickja1

Christians try to please God by minding their own personal walk. There is no expectation unbelievers act like Christians

Okay, so it is safe to assume you are talking about people that are spiritual versus religious, correct?

chrisinhouston · 01-31-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mickja1

We are naturally inclined toward evil.

Sorry but that's one idea I don't buy into.

I also have a problem with people telling me to read a certain passage out of the bible or the queran or some ancient holy text. That has about as much impact on me as if they said, "hey read the 3rd chapter of The Hitch Hikers Guide To The Universe and it will all be much clearer!"

As for christian intolerance, don't the jewish and muslim religions accept the fact that jesus was one of the prophets? They just don't think that he was "the one." Anyway, I know that Nemo was the one, I saw the movies!

Seems like christians used to interpret the bible and tell us that all those unbelievers were going to get torn to pieces in the end by devils from the underworld for all their sins and unrepenting, the whole hellfire and brimstone thing. All those unbelievers who perished in disasters like the tsunami? Toast. They had their chance!

Anyway, back to the image of the day... Wouldn't that be cool if someone would just Photoshop in Ken Lay's face on that of the woman? "Mr. Lay, the jury has found you guilty for all you did to wipe out all those Enron employee's life savings and you are going to finally get just what you deserve! Bend over!"

Elspode · 01-31-2006, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Target

This is the sort of bullshit that Makes President Bush a hero of mine. All theocrats should be whacked.

Yep I'm definintely advocating a purge of Muslim leaders worldwide.

I officially volunteer to be the one that gets to whack Bush the Theocrat, then. Or am I the only one who's noticed that this is the way our government seems to be heading? Oh, wait...its alright for us to be a Theocracy since we believe in the One True God. Sorry.

Oh, and for the NSA guys who are reading this...I mean "whack" as in "to hit with a cane", as in the picture which leads off this thread. I do not mean "whack" as in to do away with in any way, shape or form.

wolf · 01-31-2006, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonchi

What about the Moonies, Wolf? Sun Yoon Moon or whatever the fat little crook is named.

Never mind, in opening your chart I see they have him listed as the most recent cult leader. Rather strange to see the Moonies listed as Christians, though

Moonies are ostensibly Christian, with some added wierd beliefs regarding the divinity of Rev. Moon. It will be interesting to see whether the cult survives him.

wolf · 01-31-2006, 01:19 PM

In Christianity there is a difference between saying the words ("I accept Jesus as my personal savior," or similar) and saying them with sincerity and absolute truth. The intent behind the words is the key to salvation.

dar512 · 01-31-2006, 01:34 PM

Salvation Army is a religion?

wolf · 01-31-2006, 01:42 PM

Yep. They do more than just run homeless shelters, thrift stores, and ring bells at Christmastime.

One of my college roommates was S.A.

I never quite figured them out, but they are good, dedicated people.

mlandman · 01-31-2006, 02:12 PM

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In Christian history, women have had their heads chopped off for far less crimes than being in a house with another man.

All sorts of stuff was done by all sorts of religions, a long long time ago. TODAY, most seem to be enlightened. Some refuse.

Trilby · 01-31-2006, 02:20 PM

Whenever somebody brings up the "a long, long time ago..." argument I just want to slap them. Yes, a long, long time ago things were different. For example, we didn't have penicillin! Or, sterile instruments! See, as human beings we are supposed to grow, become more enlightened, embrace learning and humanity. Just because a woman used to have her flippin head lopped off for sneezing in public and now is MERELY caned for ______ (fill in the blank) does not mean we have come a long way. I am pretty certain this part of the world, with it's religious overtone, is well documented as misogynist. It doesn't exactly make me want to run out and date a Muslim guy.*

*something my niece did. Then, after she converted (required) she married him. NOW she is repenting in leisure. She's repenting a LOT. The police are usually involved.

mlandman · 01-31-2006, 02:49 PM

My point was in response to the person who was claiming atrocities were done in the name of Christianity a mere couple hundred years ago.

My belief (hey, as a Christian, perhaps it's biased. I'm trying not to be.) is:

In today's enlightened world....

* Humans do some pretty bad stuff, irrespective of one's religion. This includes people who are Christian, Muslim, insert-religion-here.

* Christians do not commit atrocities *in the name of Christ*.

* Muslim extremists (Not all who follow Islam. Extremists. Let's be clear.) DO commit what most would call atrocities, *in the name of Islam* (bigV will disagree).

So Brianna, my point was comparing activities in religion hundreds of years ago, with today. And today, Islam has some serious issues, whereas Christianity, in my opinion, doesn't engage in these atrocities.

That's my opinion.

Kitsune · 01-31-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mlandman

In today's enlightened world....

* Christians do not commit atrocities *in the name of Christ*.

Why, it's Fun Trivia Time!
3,600 killings and assassinations over the past 30 years. Muslim or Christian?

Your answer, along with many other instances.

"Enlightened World", indeed.

Trilby · 01-31-2006, 02:57 PM

I was agreeing with ya, mlandman. I was talking about the blue-boxed text above your comment. Islam is a comparatively young religion. It appears determined to make it's own mistakes rather than learn from others.

Elspode · 01-31-2006, 03:56 PM

Ultimately, I don't think most conflicts have much to do with religion in the end. They are more about property, power, wealth and mind control than anything else. In the end, no matter which religion is dominant, the head guy is still the one with the most money, toys and women.

Promenea · 01-31-2006, 04:03 PM

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making someone conform to the rituals associated with a religion

When Christian leaders attempt to convince their followers to vote for representatives that want to make laws that regulate certain religious beliefs/behaviors then yes, I think I used the right word - proselytize . I'd be fine if all you folks would be satisfied with singing the praises of Jesus (just not on my doorstep-go tell someone who hasn't heard it already).

01-31-2006, 01:19 PM	#51
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	In Christianity there is a difference between saying the words ("I accept Jesus as my personal savior," or similar) and saying them with sincerity and absolute truth. The intent behind the words is the key to salvation. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

01-31-2006, 01:34 PM	#52
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	Salvation Army is a religion? __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

01-31-2006, 01:42 PM	#53
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Yep. They do more than just run homeless shelters, thrift stores, and ring bells at Christmastime. One of my college roommates was S.A. I never quite figured them out, but they are good, dedicated people. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

01-31-2006, 02:20 PM	#55
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Whenever somebody brings up the "a long, long time ago..." argument I just want to slap them. Yes, a long, long time ago things were different. For example, we didn't have penicillin! Or, sterile instruments! See, as human beings we are supposed to grow, become more enlightened, embrace learning and humanity. Just because a woman used to have her flippin head lopped off for sneezing in public and now is MERELY caned for ______ (fill in the blank) does not mean we have come a long way. I am pretty certain this part of the world, with it's religious overtone, is well documented as misogynist. It doesn't exactly make me want to run out and date a Muslim guy.* *something my niece did. Then, after she converted (required) she married him. NOW she is repenting in leisure. She's repenting a LOT. The police are usually involved. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

01-31-2006, 02:49 PM	#56
mlandman Coronation Incarnate Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 87	Brianna, you misinterpret. My point was in response to the person who was claiming atrocities were done in the name of Christianity a mere couple hundred years ago. My belief (hey, as a Christian, perhaps it's biased. I'm trying not to be.) is: In today's enlightened world.... * Humans do some pretty bad stuff, irrespective of one's religion. This includes people who are Christian, Muslim, insert-religion-here. * Christians do not commit atrocities in the name of Christ. * Muslim extremists (Not all who follow Islam. Extremists. Let's be clear.) DO commit what most would call atrocities, in the name of Islam (bigV will disagree). So Brianna, my point was comparing activities in religion hundreds of years ago, with today. And today, Islam has some serious issues, whereas Christianity, in my opinion, doesn't engage in these atrocities. That's my opinion.

01-31-2006, 10:06 AM	#46
barefoot serpent go ahead, abbrev. it Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lawrence, KS Posts: 2,623	Let he, who be without sin, cast the first stone. maybe that explains the mask? ...oops, wrong religion.

01-31-2006, 02:57 PM	#58
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I was agreeing with ya, mlandman. I was talking about the blue-boxed text above your comment. Islam is a comparatively young religion. It appears determined to make it's own mistakes rather than learn from others. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

01-31-2006, 03:56 PM	#59
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Ultimately, I don't think most conflicts have much to do with religion in the end. They are more about property, power, wealth and mind control than anything else. In the end, no matter which religion is dominant, the head guy is still the one with the most money, toys and women. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

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