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View Poll Results: Do you own a gun?
Yes 27 42.86%
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:10 PM   #1
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Prove me wrong...
I would not matter. Every time I refute you with logic and reason you just don't reply.
I have already done so and you are still spewing the same nanny-state, totalitarian crap.
Just own it, you don't believe in freedom, you think you are better than others and think you should be able to tell them how to live, think and act because you are an elitist snob.
Own it, you will feel better.
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:13 PM   #2
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Obviously he doesn't believe in freedom. He doesn't even know what freedom is. He denies the existence of rights or he thinks they come from "society". He's clueless.
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:45 PM   #3
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Heelllloooooooo?
C-mom pierce... its your time! Time to shine, finally, a perfect opening, time to finally, logically, succinctly, absolutely, refute the gun owning argument once and for all, without all that emotional blather that has been getting in everyone else's way... I set you up man!
Here you go!
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:50 PM   #4
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All he can say is "rights don't exist unless "society" gives them to you without anything to back up his claims. He denies the very existence of rights. You can't reason with someone who is unreasonable.
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:27 PM   #5
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The guys and I invented a skeet called rugby at lunchtimes on the ranch. No time now, but I'll tell you about it later.
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:37 PM   #6
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Dont own a gun, but i would get one, i enjoy shooting.
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:30 PM   #7
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i own a browning .40 cal beretta but hid the clips when i went on vacation

the only problem is i hid them so damned well that i can't find them

what a moron
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:38 PM   #8
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nitro 1364, Did you check the underwear drawer?
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:59 PM   #9
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nitro 1364, Did you check the underwear drawer?
yeah, no dice

of course i'm not looking for dice so i suppose thats a good thing
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:15 PM   #10
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How about the freezer?
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:18 PM   #11
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To take it from another direction, PH; do you have the right to live?

If your local town decided one day that in order to maintain order, you had to be randomly killed, because there were too many people living in your area. Would you go to the killing station and accept your fate because some form of society said so?
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:35 PM   #12
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In reality, we have no rights but our society invented "the right to live" to keep stablility and avoid chaos. I agree with the idea of rights in most aspects, I am just disagreeing that they are natural and they are universal.

I would rebel and and not accept to be killed but I am also not saying we should ban guns either.
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:36 PM   #13
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Society decides the extent of your right to live, whether it comes to the death penalty, self defense, wars, etc.

Like all of the rights affirmed in the Constitution, society defines the limits.
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Old 05-31-2007, 12:45 AM   #14
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"If mankind minus one were of one opinion, then mankind is no more justified in silencing the one than the one - if he had the power - would be justified in silencing mankind."

- John Stewart Mill


That is unless the one might have the intention of doing 'harm' to the others, or the others had the intention of doing 'harm' to the one.

I always find it's a bad idea to quote philosophers on message boards because there are always a lot more variables than that which can be contained in one single quote.
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:19 AM   #15
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No reason really, it just seemed to fit.
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