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View Poll Results: Do you own a gun? | |||
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27 | 42.86% |
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36 | 57.14% |
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I would not matter. Every time I refute you with logic and reason you just don't reply.
I have already done so and you are still spewing the same nanny-state, totalitarian crap. Just own it, you don't believe in freedom, you think you are better than others and think you should be able to tell them how to live, think and act because you are an elitist snob. Own it, you will feel better. |
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Constitutional Scholar
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Obviously he doesn't believe in freedom. He doesn't even know what freedom is. He denies the existence of rights or he thinks they come from "society". He's clueless.
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Heelllloooooooo?
C-mom pierce... its your time! Time to shine, finally, a perfect opening, time to finally, logically, succinctly, absolutely, refute the gun owning argument once and for all, without all that emotional blather that has been getting in everyone else's way... I set you up man! Here you go! |
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Constitutional Scholar
Join Date: Dec 2002
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All he can say is "rights don't exist unless "society" gives them to you without anything to back up his claims. He denies the very existence of rights. You can't reason with someone who is unreasonable.
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"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin |
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The guys and I invented a skeet called rugby at lunchtimes on the ranch. No time now, but I'll tell you about it later.
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Vivacious Vivisectionist
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: The Future
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Dont own a gun, but i would get one, i enjoy shooting.
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Sibling of the Commonweal
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dixon, Illinois
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i own a browning .40 cal beretta but hid the clips when i went on vacation
the only problem is i hid them so damned well that i can't find them what a moron ![]() |
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Only looks like a disaster tourist
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: above 7,000 feet
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nitro 1364, Did you check the underwear drawer?
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Sibling of the Commonweal
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dixon, Illinois
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The future is unwritten
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 71,105
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How about the freezer?
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Radical Centrist
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
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To take it from another direction, PH; do you have the right to live?
If your local town decided one day that in order to maintain order, you had to be randomly killed, because there were too many people living in your area. Would you go to the killing station and accept your fate because some form of society said so? |
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Franklin Pierce
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Minnesota
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In reality, we have no rights but our society invented "the right to live" to keep stablility and avoid chaos. I agree with the idea of rights in most aspects, I am just disagreeing that they are natural and they are universal.
I would rebel and and not accept to be killed but I am also not saying we should ban guns either. |
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I think this line's mostly filler.
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: DC
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Society decides the extent of your right to live, whether it comes to the death penalty, self defense, wars, etc.
Like all of the rights affirmed in the Constitution, society defines the limits.
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trying hard to be a better person
Join Date: Jan 2006
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"If mankind minus one were of one opinion, then mankind is no more justified in silencing the one than the one - if he had the power - would be justified in silencing mankind."
- John Stewart Mill That is unless the one might have the intention of doing 'harm' to the others, or the others had the intention of doing 'harm' to the one. I always find it's a bad idea to quote philosophers on message boards because there are always a lot more variables than that which can be contained in one single quote.
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Master of the Domain
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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"I guess one person CAN change the world, but most of the time they probably shouldn't" - Marge Simpson
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