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Old 12-14-2009, 10:08 AM   #1
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Old 12-14-2009, 05:29 PM   #2
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Bloomberg makes a carbon contribution.

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By JIM DWYER
Published: December 12, 2009
The average New Yorker uses one-half to one-third the electricity of other Americans. Our carbon footprints are just 29 percent of people who live outside the five boroughs, and City Hall has practical plans to reduce even that amount by nearly a third over the next two decades. No wonder that this month, in a talk at the New York Academy of Science, Rohit Aggarwalat, the mayor’s chief adviser on sustainability, said the city was “the most environmentally efficient society in the United States.”

So it makes perfect sense that Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg is going to Copenhagen on Monday and Tuesday to address the international conference on climate change: his administration is working to head off problems that will not emerge until long after he is gone.

A strong case can be made that when it comes to energy and climate issues, Mr. Bloomberg is the most visionary public official in the country.

And a strong argument can also be made that on a personal level, he ranks among the worst individual polluters ever to hold public office.

Mr. Bloomberg owns a helicopter and two jets, both Falcon 900s. He flies everywhere on private jets, by far the least efficient form of transportation on or above the earth. He takes his jet to Bermuda many weekends. He has flown around the globe on it. He uses it to go to Washington. He is planning to get to Copenhagen for the climate conference by private jet, too.
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Old 12-14-2009, 06:03 PM   #3
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Merc, that giant lobster is a hoot. Thanks.
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Old 12-14-2009, 06:27 PM   #4
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I tried to find a one from a 1950's horror movie but it doesn't look like anyone made one.
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Old 12-15-2009, 08:11 PM   #5
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He looks like Zoidberg's grandpa, with a grandpa mustache.
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Old 12-17-2009, 02:58 PM   #6
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Since it is the season, has anyone ever tried to measure the carbon foot print of Santa, his delivery methods. I think he need to trade his cap.
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:44 PM   #7
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Reindeer-power is bio-fuel, so he should be carbon-neutral. Just fat, materialistic, commercialistic, and given to drink-driving.
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Old 12-19-2009, 03:39 AM   #8
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And the pounding continues in opinion and blogs. It will be mainstream and received wisdom next.
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Old 12-19-2009, 09:03 AM   #9
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"Copenhagen climate summit: 'most important paper in the world' is a glorified UN press release"

Ain't that the truth....
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Old 12-19-2009, 09:17 AM   #10
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I could use a little warming here right about now.
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Old 12-19-2009, 09:26 AM   #11
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Yea but if global worming wasn't happening you would 0.7 degrees colder right now, so be happy.
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Old 12-19-2009, 05:09 PM   #12
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I had both doubts and hopes.

The doubts won.

They couldn't even accept a non-binding resolution, only "note" it.

The only consolation is that the cap-and-trade idea that was on the table was not the best way to address the problem, but now, we have basically nothing.

I know quite a few people here are not convinced that there is AGW/ACC, but (you may have noticed) I think it is highly likely. So I am very, very displeased, disappointed, and generally pissed off.

Copenhagen = FAIL.
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Old 12-19-2009, 07:07 PM   #13
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I had no doubt that it would fail. There was not a thing about that which was unlike any United Nations meeting.

I believe in some aspects of AGW/ACC. Now the picture is quite confusing. Cap and Trade is/was a joke that is/was bound to fail.
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Old 12-19-2009, 07:49 PM   #14
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Zen - Most people don't doubt the warming, just the cause. However for many other reasons I would like to see mankind as a whole reduce carbon emissions and utilize "greener" power. Geothermal, Solar, nuclear and other alternative energies give hope to me that we can be independent in the future.
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:47 PM   #15
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Well, there are some who argue about whether there is warming, but I put the A in AGW/ACC for Anthropogenic.

I'm happy to be fellow travellers on this one, though. Provided the bus runs on algal deisel, or sunflower seeds, or somesuch...
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