There are no illegal immigrants in America - Page 31

lookout123 · 01-09-2008, 02:00 PM

shhh! if you make the walls of his little world crumble he might be forced to live in ours.

Aliantha · 01-09-2008, 02:32 PM

This last page just made me laugh.

I'm right and you're wrong, so ner ner ne ner ner! lol

Unbelievable.

Radar · 01-09-2008, 02:54 PM

Migration is not IMmigration. Slaves are migrated. Free people are immigrated.

Happy Monkey · 01-09-2008, 02:58 PM

Migration is not immigration, but immigration is migration. Slaves are migrated, free people migrate. The passage gives no preference to either construction.

Radar · 01-09-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

So now you are threatening to kill a border patrol agent who tries to arrest you....

And you admit to not paying taxes...

You have issues.

I'm not threatening anyone. I'd be using DEFENSIVE force against those who attempt to violate or harass free people crossing the border LEGALLY. I'd be standing up for the Constitution and being a real American patriot.

Also, I didn't say I don't pay taxes. I pay plenty of taxes. I pay every tax that I am legally required to pay. I pay sales tax, excise taxes on my phone, cable, gas, electric, etc. bills, I pay gas tax when I fill up my car, I pay tariffs through higher prices on imported goods, I pay PLENTY of taxes.

I just said, I am not required to pay INCOME taxes because the government has no legitimate authority to take the fruits of my labor, and can never have such a legitimate power because people don't have the legitimate authority to take what others have earned by force and therefore can't grant that power to the government.

As far as issues goes, if you call being surrounded by assholes, morons, and gutless, anti-American scumbags like you...issues, I guess yes, I've got a few of those.

TheMercenary · 01-09-2008, 03:04 PM

Illegals aliens just crawl, swim, walk, or enter this country illegally through some other means. They are birds who never fly back to the south, but they send their money south of the border!

TheMercenary · 01-09-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

issues, I guess yes, I've got a few of those.

You have LOTS of issues dude, delusions of grandeur is one of your biggest!

Radar · 01-09-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Migration is not immigration, but immigration is migration. Slaves are migrated, free people migrate. The passage gives no preference to either construction.

Slaves migrate...free people immigrate.

Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1 refers ONLY to slaves. It discusses the migration or importation of slaves and the fact that the federal government may not prohibit slavery from the states that want to allow slaves to be imported or migrated into those states.

It can not be construed to have any relation or connection to immigration or movement of free people by any stretch of the rational mind.

Radar · 01-09-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You have LOTS of issues dude, delusions of grandeur is one of your biggest!

That's nothing compared to your delusions of adequacy.

regular.joe · 01-09-2008, 03:10 PM

As per the Constitution of The United Sates section 8 paragraph 1:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

So, Congress has passed into law the United States Code.

United States Code TITLE 26--INTERNAL REVENUE CODE

SUBTITLE A--INCOME TAXES

CHAPTER 1--NORMAL TAXES AND SURTAXES

SUBCHAPTER A--DETERMINATION OF TAX LIABILITY

PART I--TAX ON INDIVIDUALS

Sec. 1. Tax imposed.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...d=Cite:+26USC1

I hope that helps.

Radar · 01-09-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Illegals aliens just crawl, swim, walk, or enter this country illegally through some other means. They are birds who never fly back to the south, but they send their money south of the border!

No illegal immigrant has ever entered the United States. Those who cross the border by crawling, walking, swimming, running, or jumping are entering the country LEGALLY and are not violating any legitimate laws. They work hard, and contribute BILLIONS more to the U.S. economy than they use in services, and what they do with the rest of the money they earn is irrelevant.

If they are sending it back to Mexico, that is a good thing. It means Mexican people will be able to afford to buy more American made products.

TheMercenary · 01-09-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

No illegal immigrant has ever entered the United States. Those who cross the border by crawling, walking, swimming, running, or jumping are entering the country LEGALLY and are not violating any legitimate laws. They work hard, and contribute BILLIONS more to the U.S. economy than they use in services, and what they do with the rest of the money they earn is irrelevant.

If they are sending it back to Mexico, that is a good thing. It means Mexican people will be able to afford to buy more American made products.

They are all criminals as our laws define it. If they are not why are they being arrested and deported? Check our your local prison, they are filled with these illegals.

Radar · 01-09-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by regular.joe

As per the Constitution of The United Sates section 8 paragraph 1:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

So, Congress has passed into law the United States Code.

United States Code TITLE 26--INTERNAL REVENUE CODE

SUBTITLE A--INCOME TAXES

CHAPTER 1--NORMAL TAXES AND SURTAXES

SUBCHAPTER A--DETERMINATION OF TAX LIABILITY

PART I--TAX ON INDIVIDUALS

Sec. 1. Tax imposed.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...d=Cite:+26USC1

I hope that helps.

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Originally Posted by U.S. Constitution - Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3

Representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned among the several states which may be included within this union, according to their respective numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole number of free persons, including those bound to service for a term of years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.

All taxes must be apportioned among the states. This means they take a census and divide the whole amount of money it takes to run the government into parts based on the population and each state's share is to be divided by the population of that state.

This is not happening with income taxes. Also Congress is granted the limited ability to create taxes, but not to tax income. Our rights can't be taxed. They can't make a breathing tax, an eating tax, or an earning a paycheck tax.

Radar · 01-09-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

They are all criminals as our laws define it. If they are not why are they being arrested and deported? Check our your local prison, they are filled with these illegals.

They are not criminals as our laws define it. Our highest law says the federal government may not create or enforce immigration laws. They are not violating any legitimate laws.

They are being arrested and deported ILLEGALLY and being harassed by idiots who know nothing about the Constitution. Also, undocumented immigrants are NOT filling up our prisons. In fact they are LESS likely to be arrested than people born here.

I realize you're not well educated down south, but all Hispanics or Mexicans are not undocumented immigrants.

regular.joe · 01-09-2008, 03:28 PM

I hope you can get put into the same cell as Al Capone. What a neat feeling, what a sense of history that would feel like.

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Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	Migration is not IMmigration. Slaves are migrated. Free people are immigrated. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

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Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Migration is not immigration, but immigration is migration. Slaves are migrated, free people migrate. The passage gives no preference to either construction. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

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TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Illegals aliens just crawl, swim, walk, or enter this country illegally through some other means. They are birds who never fly back to the south, but they send their money south of the border! __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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regular.joe Старый сержант Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC, dreaming of large Russian women. Posts: 1,464	As per the Constitution of The United Sates section 8 paragraph 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; So, Congress has passed into law the United States Code. United States Code TITLE 26--INTERNAL REVENUE CODE SUBTITLE A--INCOME TAXES CHAPTER 1--NORMAL TAXES AND SURTAXES SUBCHAPTER A--DETERMINATION OF TAX LIABILITY PART I--TAX ON INDIVIDUALS Sec. 1. Tax imposed. http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...d=Cite:+26USC1 I hope that helps. __________________ Birth, wealth, and position are valueless during wartime. Man is only judged by his character --Soldier's Testament. Death, like birth, is a secret of Nature. - Marcus Aurelius.

01-09-2008, 03:28 PM	#465
regular.joe Старый сержант Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC, dreaming of large Russian women. Posts: 1,464	I hope you can get put into the same cell as Al Capone. What a neat feeling, what a sense of history that would feel like. __________________ Birth, wealth, and position are valueless during wartime. Man is only judged by his character --Soldier's Testament. Death, like birth, is a secret of Nature. - Marcus Aurelius.

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