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Old 05-14-2005, 01:17 AM   #31
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They left out the 5th element.
You just wanted to see a picture of Milla Jovovich.
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Old 05-14-2005, 01:29 AM   #32
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Since we're marginally on the subject ...

Does anyone have recommendations for a good readin' Bible? Like most folks I already have a KJV, published by the Gideons, and swiped from a hotel, just like you're supposed to ... I also have a Douay, which is the usual Catholic version, however, being a Catholic Bible, it's not for reading, it's for storing mass cards in.

I just finished up reading the Koran, and while I've read extensive bits of the Bible, I've never taken the opportunity to go through it, front to back.

I do NOT want to deal with a large, unwieldy, concordance Bible. Although there would be tons of interesting information, I'm hoping for something that 1. won't weigh more than 5 pounds and 2. Is cheap (which means that I'll likely end up just going with something that's already in the house).

I do intend to eventually get the controversial "modernised" Bible approved by the current Archbishop of Canterbury, but it's got to get a lot cheaper before I buy one from amazon.

It is on my wish list, however.
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Old 05-14-2005, 02:02 AM   #33
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It is on my wish list, however.
I thought they were just for camhos?
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Old 05-14-2005, 02:57 AM   #34
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Just because you were forced to participate in a religion does NOT mean you know what's really in the book, and understand it.
Don't assume that anyone that doesn't accept it doesn't know and understand what it says. Of course that could be possible since bible scholars have been working on it for a very long time and are still at it. Maybe once they figure it out, a new version comes out and they have to start over.
Knowing content and understanding what it says, doesn't make it true either.

As far as rejecting without reading a book, I do that with Dr Phil's books.
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Old 05-14-2005, 03:30 AM   #35
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I do intend to eventually get the controversial "modernised" Bible approved by the current Archbishop of Canterbury, but it's got to get a lot cheaper before I buy one from amazon.
Sycamore's Amazon store would greatly appreciate such a purchase.
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Old 05-14-2005, 10:02 AM   #36
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Sycamore's amazon store is a source of wonderment.

I may be buying a tent first. I, whose idea of camping is a hotel with room service that shuts down at 9pm, will be spending my late summer vacation camping. Sort of.
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Old 05-14-2005, 11:25 AM   #37
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Why camping if you don't really like it? Is this a "forced camping" situation?
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Old 05-14-2005, 01:29 PM   #38
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I, whose idea of camping is a hotel with room service that shuts down at 9pm, will be spending my late summer vacation camping. Sort of.
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Old 05-14-2005, 01:45 PM   #39
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When you dig a hole in the ground, all you got is dirt ...
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Old 05-14-2005, 02:32 PM   #40
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For an easy to read translation that doesn't modernize anything controversial... i would recommend the New Living Translation. Tyndale House has quite a few choices.
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Old 05-14-2005, 09:51 PM   #41
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You just wanted to see a picture of Milla Jovovich.
As appealing as that may be, I was merely trying to show you religious wackos that I keep a few esoteric texts in my ivory tower. And not just to level furniture either.
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Old 05-15-2005, 12:56 PM   #42
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As appealing as that may be, I was merely trying to show you religious wackos that I keep a few esoteric texts in my ivory tower. And not just to level furniture either.
I've got a kitchen but I'm no chef.
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Old 05-17-2005, 06:30 AM   #43
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Kansas Debate Challenges Science Itself

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TOPEKA, Kan. - The Kansas school board's hearings on evolution weren't limited to how the theory should be taught in public schools. The board is considering redefining science itself. Advocates of "intelligent design" are pushing the board to reject a definition limiting science to natural explanations for what's observed in the world.

Instead, they want to define it as "a systematic method of continuing investigation," without specifying what kind of answer is being sought. The definition would appear in the introduction to the state's science standards.

The proposed definition has outraged many scientists, who are frustrated that students could be discussing supernatural explanations for natural phenomena in their science classes.
You know, is it me or does anyone else get the impression that only conservative Christians could have gotten away with this. If pagans or UFO enthusiasts had pushed something like this they would have been laughed at.

BTW, considering the separation of church and state, someone should remind conservatives that if religion creeps into this, there is no control over which religious viewpoint is taught. Being an avid Terry Pratchett fan, I'm leaning towards the world as a disc on the backs of four elephants on the back of a giant turtle.

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Old 05-17-2005, 09:29 AM   #44
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There was a version of the bible called the "Good News Bible" that was made around the Jesus freak era of the 70s. It's kind of fun to read -- only the NT was translated though. Lots of "groovy" language, iirc.

Smurf, I too was raised in the southern baptist tradition and feel your pain. But don't blame the big haired ladies and green bean casseroles on God. They mean well, same as anyone else. Baptists are just people who don't wave to each other in the liquor store. And most of em that I know are decent people (again, just like any other group). One or two of them got in the news with the 'matthew shepard is burning in hell' thing, but they don't represent the rest of us. The southern baptist church is the protestant version of the roman catholic one. Top heavy leadership that concentrates more on matters of "policy" and such than on matters pertaining to the soul. It's a disease that organized religion has to fight against.
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Old 05-17-2005, 09:52 AM   #45
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Aren't you jumping to conclusions here? How do you know if I "understand" what is in the Bible? Is it your place to judge my knowledge and understanding in this case? You have no idea what my experiences or beliefs are.

I'm glad to hear that you "know what's really in the book" and that you "understand" it. That's swell. Contrary to your opinion, I also know what is in this book and I believe I understand it quite well. Based on my understanding, I choose not to believe in it. Isn't that my right?

I didn't say whether you understood it or not, nor did I speculate. I merely stated that simply being indoctrinated in an organized religion does not mean you understand the contents of the book.

Seems like you're the one jumping to conclusions.
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