Rawal Pindi, Pakistan - Page 3

wolf · 05-04-2005, 01:29 PM

He was the friendly cab driver, wasn't he?

slang · 05-04-2005, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf

He was the friendly cab driver, wasn't he?

He was the dark looking fellow with the round little hat and shalwar kameez on.

wolf · 05-04-2005, 01:54 PM

That narrows it down. Thanks.

wolf · 05-09-2005, 08:40 AM

Mindy, why were you there? Were you travelling alone or with someone else?

Queen of the Ryche · 05-09-2005, 09:07 AM

And welcome to the Cellar! (Am I too new to say that?)

Beestie · 05-09-2005, 12:20 PM

Thank you for the thoughtful reply and welcome to the Cellar!

slang · 08-20-2005, 10:48 PM

There is a very good website on Rawalpindi here at www.pindiplus.com

It's complete with a huge collection of photos and clips, info on traveling to Pakistan, where to stay, what to do, the history of the city....most everything you might want to know.

The site was started on a shoestring budget by Dr. Kashif Ahmed. He's done a great job and attracting Pakis as well as westerners to this site.

slang · 10-12-2005, 01:52 AM

If you are interested in some clips of what's going on in the Paki quake relief and conditions there, new clips are available. **this is raw footage of earthquake scenes with some human fatalities shown**

http://www.pindiplus.com/kashif/vdo/index.php

I'm always curious to see raw footage like this, without spin and packaging. Of course...spin would require that I speak that language but you get my meaning.

Bagh looting video 1 and 2: This is the truck of supplies that Kashif bought and arranged shipment of with the transfer I sent for quake relief.

The yellow packages being thrown are biscuts. The main need there right now are blankets and clothing.

The people are complaining that they are from smaller far off villages and have not yet recieved supplies. The residents there are getting the majority of the supplies (translation: they have looted the truck before we could loot the truck, dammit)

"interview" video: you can hear them cheer when they break into the truck and find the blankets. Cool to see even though things are so bad for them right now.

I just wish that I had more cash to send to help out. With very few exceptions, everyone in Pak was very good to me. I have a connection with them even though we're so different and far away.

KA says that the helos from Kabul have arrived and are being put to good use.

Sundae · 10-12-2005, 06:19 AM

Slang

Firstly I read your thread with interest & loved the pictures. I haven't checked out the earthquake clips yet as I am at work.

One question- you use the abbreviation Paki quite often in your posts. Is this acceptable in the US & in Pakistan? In the UK it is considered insulting - like calling someone from China a Chinky. Its a genuine question & not a dig.

slang · 10-12-2005, 03:52 PM

It must not be offensive because it's used here in the states by Paki(stani

) people as well as in country.

I never gave it a thought though honestly. If I thought it would be insulting I wouldn't use it. I'll ask Kashif about it. He doesnt hold anything back when he thinks I effed up or am wrong.

Have you traveled there? What did you find interesting in the photos?

Are you a Muslim, do you run with scissors, do you play the lottery, do you like to drink tea, do you play cricket, is the highest building in your city named after a baseball player, do you ride a bicycle to work in the snow to save money, do you like balloons, have you ever seen Elvis, have you even seen a UFO, have you ever left your body ( w/o chemicals), .............

Pie · 10-12-2005, 04:35 PM

Most of the "Indian" grocery stores in my area (Central NJ) are labled as "Indo-Pak" groceries... So no, it probably isn't offensive (here).

slang · 10-13-2005, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pie

So no, it probably isn't offensive (here).

From my e-mail to the [sarcasm] Master of Universal knowledge and Wisdom [/sarcasm]:

"So, the question is.....the term Paki is offensive to Pakistanis (generally speaking) or not?"

....and the reply:

"yes it is considered offensive by many people. ...blah, blah, blah-blah-ba-ba-baaa..If you know PAK means "pure" while PAKI doesnt Mean anything its is a slang word. So aviod using it as many wont be happy to be heard as PAKI.....instead use PAK people."

And so it seems that not one person on the entire trip corrected me, probably just overlooking my mistake out of politeness.

Sundae · 10-13-2005, 04:48 AM

This was a genuine question about how the term is perceived in different places. I do appreciate that you would not have written positive posts about a country and its people and used a term you understood to be offensive.

With that out of the way I'll answer the other questions:

I haven't travelled to Pakistan although I have been to India & Sri Lanka. I live in a city which has approx 30% Asian or British Asian population, so friends & colleagues have talked about "home" and shown me holiday snaps from all over the Indian sub-continent. My knowledge of Pakistan is quite poor which is why I enjoyed seeing your pictures.

I liked the fact that you posted photos of street scenes - every day life. When I was in India I was amazed by how mundane vehicles could be so highly prized and decorated, it brought home that I was in a totally foreign place. The disregard for personal saftey on the road was shocking at first, but became the norm very quickly. The only serious accident I saw was in Eygpt, but of course that's another continent.

I think the following questions are perhaps some sort of jibe. But what the hey - you ask, you get.

I'm not Muslim, I'm an atheist. This seems to make it easier to enjoy other people's celebrations. I'll have a big Diwali (Hindu) night out and also a pig out Eid (Muslim)celebration when Ramadan finishes. And then Christmas!

I don't run with scissors, do play the Lottery when I remember, drink buckets of tea, my Dad plays cricket but I don't (don't understand the rules), can only name 2 baseball players, walk to work when fit, get the bus otherwise, like helium balloons, never seen Elvis, a UFO & never left my body with or without drugs.

Phew.

BigV · 10-13-2005, 07:18 PM

Pig is definitely out at Eid, that's for sure.

Sundae · 10-14-2005, 03:16 AM

Oh blimey - nice choice of words right? I'll have one halal of a feast then

05-04-2005, 01:29 PM	#1
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05-04-2005, 01:54 PM	#3
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05-09-2005, 08:40 AM	#4
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08-20-2005, 10:48 PM	#7
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	There is a very good website on Rawalpindi here at www.pindiplus.com It's complete with a huge collection of photos and clips, info on traveling to Pakistan, where to stay, what to do, the history of the city....most everything you might want to know. The site was started on a shoestring budget by Dr. Kashif Ahmed. He's done a great job and attracting Pakis as well as westerners to this site.

10-12-2005, 01:52 AM	#8
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	If you are interested in some clips of what's going on in the Paki quake relief and conditions there, new clips are available. this is raw footage of earthquake scenes with some human fatalities shown http://www.pindiplus.com/kashif/vdo/index.php I'm always curious to see raw footage like this, without spin and packaging. Of course...spin would require that I speak that language but you get my meaning. Bagh looting video 1 and 2: This is the truck of supplies that Kashif bought and arranged shipment of with the transfer I sent for quake relief. The yellow packages being thrown are biscuts. The main need there right now are blankets and clothing. The people are complaining that they are from smaller far off villages and have not yet recieved supplies. The residents there are getting the majority of the supplies (translation: they have looted the truck before we could loot the truck, dammit) "interview" video: you can hear them cheer when they break into the truck and find the blankets. Cool to see even though things are so bad for them right now. I just wish that I had more cash to send to help out. With very few exceptions, everyone in Pak was very good to me. I have a connection with them even though we're so different and far away. KA says that the helos from Kabul have arrived and are being put to good use. Last edited by slang; 10-12-2005 at 02:07 AM.

10-12-2005, 06:19 AM	#9
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Slang Firstly I read your thread with interest & loved the pictures. I haven't checked out the earthquake clips yet as I am at work. One question- you use the abbreviation Paki quite often in your posts. Is this acceptable in the US & in Pakistan? In the UK it is considered insulting - like calling someone from China a Chinky. Its a genuine question & not a dig.

10-12-2005, 03:52 PM	#10
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	It must not be offensive because it's used here in the states by Paki(stani ) people as well as in country. I never gave it a thought though honestly. If I thought it would be insulting I wouldn't use it. I'll ask Kashif about it. He doesnt hold anything back when he thinks I effed up or am wrong. Have you traveled there? What did you find interesting in the photos? Are you a Muslim, do you run with scissors, do you play the lottery, do you like to drink tea, do you play cricket, is the highest building in your city named after a baseball player, do you ride a bicycle to work in the snow to save money, do you like balloons, have you ever seen Elvis, have you even seen a UFO, have you ever left your body ( w/o chemicals), ............. Last edited by slang; 10-12-2005 at 04:05 PM. Reason: Saw photo listed and SG doesnt appear to be from PK

10-12-2005, 04:35 PM	#11
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Most of the "Indian" grocery stores in my area (Central NJ) are labled as "Indo-Pak" groceries... So no, it probably isn't offensive (here). __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

10-13-2005, 04:48 AM	#13
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	This was a genuine question about how the term is perceived in different places. I do appreciate that you would not have written positive posts about a country and its people and used a term you understood to be offensive. With that out of the way I'll answer the other questions: I haven't travelled to Pakistan although I have been to India & Sri Lanka. I live in a city which has approx 30% Asian or British Asian population, so friends & colleagues have talked about "home" and shown me holiday snaps from all over the Indian sub-continent. My knowledge of Pakistan is quite poor which is why I enjoyed seeing your pictures. I liked the fact that you posted photos of street scenes - every day life. When I was in India I was amazed by how mundane vehicles could be so highly prized and decorated, it brought home that I was in a totally foreign place. The disregard for personal saftey on the road was shocking at first, but became the norm very quickly. The only serious accident I saw was in Eygpt, but of course that's another continent. I think the following questions are perhaps some sort of jibe. But what the hey - you ask, you get. I'm not Muslim, I'm an atheist. This seems to make it easier to enjoy other people's celebrations. I'll have a big Diwali (Hindu) night out and also a pig out Eid (Muslim)celebration when Ramadan finishes. And then Christmas! I don't run with scissors, do play the Lottery when I remember, drink buckets of tea, my Dad plays cricket but I don't (don't understand the rules), can only name 2 baseball players, walk to work when fit, get the bus otherwise, like helium balloons, never seen Elvis, a UFO & never left my body with or without drugs. Phew.

10-13-2005, 07:18 PM	#14
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Pig is definitely out at Eid, that's for sure. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

10-14-2005, 03:16 AM	#15
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Oh blimey - nice choice of words right? I'll have one halal of a feast then

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