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Old 01-12-2005, 07:35 PM   #31
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I hope you not inferring that I am lead by some invisible force, to believe anything at all.
Not at all, I'm saying that that some people are forced to do so by an inability to simply say, "I don't know."

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Probably one of my biggest problems is not believing in anything, other than what can be proven wiith my own eyes.
I'm of the same mind, although I try to not become pathological about it.

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You'll have to argue your point about religion outliving it's purpose, with someone who gives a damn.

I'm having a hard time understsanding how you continue to correlate my views with mainstream religion.
It was just filler and clarification, that's all.

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Sir, If you consider my views dogmatic, you might want to look the word up in the dictionary. Also, ,metaphoricaly speaking, you are one of the most idealistic people, I have ever had the pleasure of speaking with........

Learning to live in such an idealistic society, within it's norms, is a miricle in itself.
Ideals are just goals in pretty clothing, but they are good to have.
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Old 01-14-2005, 01:09 PM   #32
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Not at all, I'm saying that that some people are forced to do so by an inability to simply say, "I don't know."



I'm of the same mind, although I try to not become pathological about it.



It was just filler and clarification, that's all.



Ideals are just goals in pretty clothing, but they are good to have.
I don't think it's their inability to say they don't know. Ithink it is their dogmatic views that causes this, if we are talking about the same thing.
The whole point is knowone really knows when it comes to religion, creation etc......Pathological is a strong word. I will not become defensive, for I feel sure you were not implying my views were pathological. Thanks for the clarification. I think idealism, as i was referring too, is a very dangerous thing at times. I think pushing ones ideals upon another, whether another country or an individual ismuch the same as trying to convert a person to their religious views by the use of dogmatic idealism. I think our country to include myself need to try a new wardrobe for awhile.
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Old 02-10-2005, 05:59 PM   #33
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Not at all, I'm saying that that some people are forced to do so by an inability to simply say, "I don't know."



I'm of the same mind, although I try to not become pathological about it.



It was just filler and clarification, that's all.



Ideals are just goals in pretty clothing, but they are good to have.
Ideals are nothing more than what a specific person or persons wish to believe. I thinks when goals are brought into the equation, we must decide whose precising defintion of the word goal we are looking at.
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Old 02-10-2005, 06:06 PM   #34
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goals are, if anything, more personal than ideals. At best they are even.
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Old 02-11-2005, 01:25 AM   #35
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Ideals are whatcha want, goals are how yah get there.
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Old 02-17-2005, 01:08 PM   #36
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goals are, if anything, more personal than ideals. At best they are even.

I may be wrong, but I thought ideals were views of an individual or group of individuals. I thought goals were something a person tried to reach good or bad. Just wondering........
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Old 02-17-2005, 02:40 PM   #37
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Well....yellow mustard on an all beef frank is ideal. Its my goal to spread this belief.
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