tw & me

[xoxoxoBruce]

The propwash would blow people off the beach.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Griff

Hmmm... Didn't I put up a perfectly good GW lockbox thread...?

Which is all about the lies and deceit of a mental midget president. Even mythical is an idea that we can invest social security money - because the money was taken to pay for an illegal 'liberation' in Iraq. Investing your social security money in stock markets assumes the voter also believes the bible to be fact. A stock broker such as Lookout123 would love such myths. Says much about his real religion.

To demonstrate a problem with reality was a need 'on day one' to be dropping a pallet of essential food, water, First Aid medical supplies and blankets onto open and devestated fields that were once villages. Lookout123 distorts facts to deny this. After all, that meant a lying president had to admit that day that a disaster occurred. So many are so easily deceived as to even take biblical scriptures literally. They even defend the mental midget for doing nothing as people sat dying.

have you ever seen a parachute drop of mass supplies? again very useful, but these aren't guided munitions - you have to drop them away from populated areas

He assumes that open fields that were once villages are still chock full of people. He assumes the people will be so stupid as to stand only in the one spot that pallet will land. He assumes the people will still be alive seven days later - that the first pallet was not necessary on day one. He does this because he must defend the mental midget and so called 'moral' president at all costs. Lookout123 even changes facts to claim aid could not have been dispatched for 5+ days. Therefore the president was right to take 5 days to decide a disaster had occurred. He was right to stifle thousands of Americans in the region who desperately wanted to save lives.

The president is right to claim social secuity money can be invested elsewhere? Notice George Jr is quick to leave details up to others - because he proposes but another myth.

Reality - whether it takes 5 days to decide people have died or whether the SS monies can be invested elsewhere - or even that Israeli are all good and Arabs are all evil - it still comes back to a mental midget president elected by those who would impose their religion on all others. Evangelicals such as Lookout123.

The perfect plane required in first days of the Tsunami were C17s that could have carried supplies long distance, parachuted them to starving and dying villagers, and get back for more supplies that same day. But another lie supported by evanglical extremists called 'the liberation of Iraq' make that not possible - as another has so properly noted. Iraqi comes first. A president stalled - remained indecisive - as if a Tsunami did not happen. Then offers up a paltry $15million to prove how moral he can be.

The point of the thread has not changed. It remains about the lying president and those extremists who will say anything to protect that liar. The lockbox is a myth due to the same president who undermined the Oslo Accords and almost got us into a war over a silly spy plane. Same president who denied for 5 days that people were dying. We call him 'moral'? Better to call him evangelical. Then he is not lying. He was just mistaken.

[xoxoxoBruce]

But once they got rolling, from The Diplomad

Sitting VERY late for two consecutive nights in interminable meetings with UN reps, hearing them go on about "taking the lead coordination role," pledges, and the impending arrival of this or that UN big shot or assessment/coordination team, for the millionth time I realized that if not for Australia and America almost nobody in the tsunami-affected areas would have survived more than a few days. If we had waited for the UNocrats to get their act coordinated, the already massive death toll would have become astronomical. But, fortunately, thanks to "retrograde racist war-mongers " such as John Howard and George W. Bush, as we sat in air conditioned meeting rooms with these UNocrats, young Australians and Americans were at that moment "coordinating" without the UN and saving the lives of tens-of-thousands of people.

And

we have in our possession a short situation report circulated by the Dutch at the most recent EU meeting here in this corner of the Far Abroad. This January 2 report is written by local Dutch diplomats who traveled to Aceh and saw the reality on the ground. We will cite the two principal paragraphs, and leave them unedited in their original rather charming Dutch-English.

The US military has arrived and is clearly establishing its presence everywhere in Banda Aceh. They completely have taken over the military hospital, which was a mess until yesterday but is now completely up and running. They brought big stocks of medicines, materials for the operation room, teams of doctors, water and food. Most of the patients who were lying in the hospital untreated for a week have undergone medical treatment by the US teams by this afternoon. US military have unloaded lots of heavy vehicles and organize the logistics with Indonesian military near the airport. A big camp is being set up at a major square in the town. Huge generators are ready to provide electricity. US helicopters fly to places which haven't been reached for the whole week and drop food. The impression it makes on the people is also highly positive; finally something happens in the city of Banda Aceh and finally it seems some people are in control and are doing something. No talking but action. European countries are until now invisible on the ground. IOM staff (note: this is a USAID-funded organization) is very busy briefing the incoming Americans and Australians about the situation.

[lookout123]

wow, that was a great post tw. thanks for succinctly answering the questions i had posed. i appreciate your restrained, unheated posting style. thank you for setting me straight. recap: lookout123 = extremist, gwb = mental midget, air drops = best course of action, iraq war = bad. got it, thanks.

[richlevy]

Well, it's nice that we are on the ball in Indonesia. Isn't it much nicer when you try to help people who actually want the help and don't shoot at you? It's also good that GWB turned over the US response to his father and Bill Clinton, two smarter presidents who are not viewed by a majority of the world's population as a boob.

[OnyxCougar]

Don't feel bad, Lookout. He didn't answer mine either.

I guess we're just stereotypical religious extremists with no thought or minds of our own, controlled by the media and the MBA.

[tw]

Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

Don't feel bad, Lookout. He didn't answer mine either.

It would have been nice to have something to reply to. By responding to sentences one at a time, you were not responding to an idea or concept. In fact, I expected you to grade my spelling. Onyxcougar, if you really wanted a response, then post in coherent paragraphs. Nit picking sentences is how one avoids the context.

I could not respond to something that was not coherent because it nit picked sentences rather than address an issue. I read your post four times and came to the same conclusion: What is she saying?

[tw]

Originally Posted by lookout123

wow, that was a great post tw. thanks for succinctly answering the questions i had posed.

When will you answer THE question? When will you apologize for a president who could not make a decision for five days while people died? Instead you ran away as soon as the hard question was asked.

For five days, the president sat in denial - stifling thousands of good Americans in government who therefore could do nothing to save lives. Notice only 2 days after the president finally admits a disaster had occured, then massive aid was everywhere. Why did that aid sit stifled for five days? Why did a mental midget evangelical president do nothing for five days? Lookout123 must avoid this question because he supports the mental midget no matter how many good people must die - including 98,000 in Iraq. Lookout123 also calls that 'moral'. Notice he will not admit this president was again incompetant. That would harm his religious agenda.

Go ahead Lookout123. Explain why it took George Jr five days to view satellite photographs from his PDBs? Did this same president not learn to read PDBs after permtting bin Laden to attack the WTC?

Lookout123 avoids hard questions such as, "When will we go after bin Laden." Clearly the religious, such as George Jr, protect other religious extremists such as bin Laden. Still waiting for Lookout123 to answer that hard question as well. He can't. So instead he mocks what I had posted.

Go ahead Lookout1213. Post as an honest man - and not as a religous extremist. Answer the questions? When will you apologize for a president who could not make a decision for five days? When will the president finally decide to go after bin Laden? Prove you are honest and therefore not a religous extremist. Answer the hard questions.

[lookout123]

Prove you are honest and therefore not a religous extremist.

you really expect me to prove i am not something when you have produced no evidence that i am?

[Clodfobble]

When will you apologize for a president who could not make a decision for five days?

And furthermore Lookout, when did you stop beating your wife?!

[Troubleshooter]

I'm curious. Is there an option to filter/block messages by something in their body, for instance the phrase "mental midget"?

[Dagney]

Originally Posted by lookout123

you really expect me to prove i am not something when you have produced no evidence that i am?

Heck, i'm trying to figure out where religious extremism = dishonesty.

That's just simply one of the most interesting oxymorons I've ever seen.

[Dagney]

Just a few things I want to ask...that I did not see covered in the above spatter of information....

1. Did TW not see that US troops were on the ground the day after the disaster doing what they could? (I saw it on the news, am looking for the source). Yes, our big battle groups may not have been there until later, but we were there helping, right away.
2. Does TW not realize that merely having a US military presence on the ground, daily costs an average of $10Mil US? (Gee, let's calculate, 7 Days, * 10 Mil = roughly 70 Million dollars...on top of the pleged 35 mil at first, that was then Increased to 350 Mil, that was then given pretty much a bottomless bucket, with Powell saying we'll give what they need...no matter what)
3. Has TW dug cash out of his pocket and offered it up to assist...or does he just take pot shots from the comfort of his easy chair?
4. You may not agree with Bush and his politics, hell, you may not even like him as a person, you may be holding on to a lot of bitter rage after the 'grand disappointment' in November, but damn man, 150K people died, and no, it was NOT President Bush's fault, so why don't you take a pill and stop trying to blame someone for an 'act of God'.

Oh, and yes, I'm a Christian in a round about sort of way by definition.......and if you want to call me a religious extremist because I believe the way I do, go ahead....it won't be any skin off my nose.

Kellie

[tw]

Originally Posted by lookout123

you really expect me to prove i am not something when you have produced no evidence that i am?

I expect you to be honest rather than religious extremist. An honest man has no problem with these questions.
1) When do we go after bin Laden?
2) When will you admit that George Jr sat on his righteous ass - did nothing - for 5 days as people were dying?

These are not hard questions for honest people. Lookout123 is so extremist - so much a supporter of the mental midget president - that he must completely avoid these simple questions. Question one has been put to Lookout123 what - maybe 15 times? He still fears to answer as an honest man.

[Undertoad]

Bush press conference on day three, announces teleconferencing with affected world leaders and pledges the first aid

Day three. Honesty, tw? Honesty?

Now look, I know the Times put all this shit at chimpy's feet, but 1) it happened the day after Christmas, and 2) the fact that they went around the UN in three days starting the day after Christmas turned out to be a REAL winner in hindsight.

It turned out that most other Western leaders were off on vacation too, as was Annan (who REALLY didn't return for five days).