What do you do Nov 3rd? - Page 3

Griff · 10-17-2004, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

-- Will you grab your gun and head for the hills to wait for imminent implosion of the nation?

This points out one of the great ironies of our present political nightmare. If the Dems win they grab guns and violate the intent of the 2nd Amendment, leaving people without the power to resist. If the Reps win, they put in place the very police state policies which the people need to resist. Good thing I'm already in the hills.

wolf · 10-17-2004, 01:39 PM

You really need a "drink heavily" option.

Oh. I'm for #4 and #5.

lookout123 · 10-17-2004, 02:50 PM

if i new everyone would pick one of my choices i would have made this a poll. i thought someone would give a narrative description of their plans. and then, because this is the cellar - we could ridicule them and tell them why they are stupid and probably the downfall of america.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-17-2004, 03:33 PM

Last paragraph in the link

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Election officials have said that anyone who feels they have been inadvertently removed from the voter rolls on Nov. 2 will be allowed to use a provisional ballot that will be examined later to determine eligibility.

Well, Mr Jones, it seems you were wrongly listed. We're very sorry, we'll count your provisional ballot right now. Let's see now, did you vote fer or agin us?

xoxoxoBruce · 10-17-2004, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff

This points out one of the great ironies of our present political nightmare. If the Dems win they grab guns and violate the intent of the 2nd Amendment, leaving people without the power to resist. If the Reps win, they put in place the very police state policies which the people need to resist. Good thing I'm already in the hills.

It'll take the Dems at least 3 or 4 days to round up all, what.........150......200 millions guns. According to the chicken littles, anarchy will commence immediately, so there's no conflict.
I think I'll get out the "big gun" to handle those Apache Longbows.

10-17-2004, 03:58 PM

Lots of folks out there with unregistered guns, Bruce. Of course, I wouldn't know any!

xoxoxoBruce · 10-17-2004, 05:29 PM

It doesn't matter if they are registered or not if the anarchy will commence immediately following the election.

Cyber Wolf · 10-17-2004, 07:11 PM

They can take the guns. It's okay with me. I have my own formidable arsenal that doesn't use any gunpowder, CO2- or air-cartridges. Just makes things generally safer for me!

Undertoad · 10-18-2004, 11:37 AM

required reading for marichiko

Michael Totten quietly notes the stupid irony in claiming Bush has festered totalitarianism in the US, as he plans his trip to Libya, a truly totalitarian regime.

Happy Monkey · 10-18-2004, 12:09 PM

There didn't seem to be much more than "Libya's much worse than the US, so don't complain" in there. We're supposed to set our bar much higher than Libya, and complain bitterly over any attempt to lower it.

10-18-2004, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

required reading for marichiko

Michael Totten quietly notes the stupid irony in claiming Bush has festered totalitarianism in the US, as he plans his trip to Libya, a truly totalitarian regime.

Well, thank you for your concern in regard to my reading list. I can't recall ever posting that the US=Syria or some other totalitarian regime (of course we all know about me and my stupid memory, but that doesn't seem like an analogy I would make).

Yes, I am deeply concerned about the erosion of our freedoms under the Patriot Act and various laws that have come out of the war on drugs. The Patriot Act allows the government to arrest people who are suspected of being terrorists and hold them for indefinate lengths of time without access to a lawyer or the right of habeas corpus. These people essentially get disappeared, and that is frightening. There have been more than 1200 presumably terrorist-related arrests and 750 people deported, and no one outside the government knows their names, or how many court docket entries have been erased or never entered. Secret federal court hearings have been held with no public record of when or where or who is being tried. (I'll get you the cite on this). Here it is, Bill Moyers: http://yubanet.com/artman/publish/article_13509.shtml

I agree with the words of Pastor Niemöller 'First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I said nothing. Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a Social Democrat, so I did nothing. Then came the trade unionists, but I was not a trade unionist. And then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I did little. Then when they came for me, there was no one left to stand up for me.'

When we see something which is unconstitutional being done to a group of people who may indeed be guilty, but where some may be innocent; we need to speak out. Even the worst criminal still has certain basic rights in our country. We protect that criminal's rights because they are also the rights of an innocent person who may have been falsely accused. These rights under the constitution are MY rights and YOUR rights, and we should oppose ANY governmental attempt to undermine them for ANY reason. Who will speak out for you, UT, if someone makes a false accusation of terrorism against you and you get taken away?

I have traveled in totalitarian countries. I spent almost a year in Brazil in the early 70's when that country was under an extremely repressive military dictatorship. Soldiers stood on every street corner. One had to be extremely careful of what one said in public. I heard story after story of dissenters being taken from their homes in the night and never being heard from again. I had a Brazilian friend named Augusto B. who had fled Sao Paulo for the northeastern Brazilian town where I was staying because he was an activist against the dictatorship and it was no longer safe for him to reside in Sao Paulo. Everytime I got on a plane going to, from, or within Brazil I had my passport scrutinized and re-scrutinized. I was actually strip searched a couple of times by female members of Brazilian customs. I know what it is to live in a totalitarian society.

The US is not Brazil. I hope to God it never becomes like Brazil. We citizens need to speak out when we see bad things happen in our country. Thank God we still can.

Radar · 10-18-2004, 01:09 PM

I haven't seen anyone mention assassination. Hmmmm

MY candidate will not win. I already know this. I think he could win if we'd have instant run-off voting, but that's not likely to happen since the Democrats and Republicans are keeping everyone else out. I hope for the lesser of two evils (John Kerry) because if Bush is elected it will mean the possible complete destruction of America and perhaps the world. At the very least it will mean there will no longer be any trace of the freedoms or principles upon which America was built.

I'd seriously consider moving to another country, but no country would be safe with Bush in office...especially the USA.

russotto · 10-18-2004, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

I haven't seen anyone mention assassination. Hmmmm

Probably because mentioning it in a public forum could get you flagged by Carnivore, after which you could end up in an uncomfortable basement room being questioned by hostile government agents, and (regardless of the outcome) never be able to get on a commercial flight again. (note lack of emoticon).

10-18-2004, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by russotto

Probably because mentioning it in a public forum could get you flagged by Carnivore, after which you could end up in an uncomfortable basement room being questioned by hostile government agents, and (regardless of the outcome) never be able to get on a commercial flight again. (note lack of emoticon).

Now, now, now. What did your Uncle UT just tell us a few posts above? This isn't Syria and Radar can say anything he wants!

elSicomoro · 10-18-2004, 03:50 PM

This isn't the first time that Radar has said something like his comment above...he's still here, isn't he?

Or is he?

10-17-2004, 01:39 PM	#32
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	You really need a "drink heavily" option. Oh. I'm for #4 and #5. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

10-17-2004, 02:50 PM	#33
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	if i new everyone would pick one of my choices i would have made this a poll. i thought someone would give a narrative description of their plans. and then, because this is the cellar - we could ridicule them and tell them why they are stupid and probably the downfall of america. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

10-17-2004, 05:29 PM	#37
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It doesn't matter if they are registered or not if the anarchy will commence immediately following the election. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-17-2004, 07:11 PM	#38
Cyber Wolf As stable as a ring of PU-239 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: On a huge rock covered in water, highly advanced moss and 7 billion parasites Posts: 1,264	They can take the guns. It's okay with me. I have my own formidable arsenal that doesn't use any gunpowder, CO2- or air-cartridges. Just makes things generally safer for me! __________________ "I don't see what's so triffic about creating people as people and then getting' upset 'cos they act like people." ~Adam Young, Good Omens "I don't see why it matters what is written. Not when it's about people. It can always be crossed out." ~Adam Young, Good Omens

10-18-2004, 12:09 PM	#40
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	There didn't seem to be much more than "Libya's much worse than the US, so don't complain" in there. We're supposed to set our bar much higher than Libya, and complain bitterly over any attempt to lower it. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

10-17-2004, 03:58 PM	#36
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	Lots of folks out there with unregistered guns, Bruce. Of course, I wouldn't know any!

10-18-2004, 11:37 AM	#39
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	required reading for marichiko Michael Totten quietly notes the stupid irony in claiming Bush has festered totalitarianism in the US, as he plans his trip to Libya, a truly totalitarian regime.

10-18-2004, 01:09 PM	#42
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	I haven't seen anyone mention assassination. Hmmmm MY candidate will not win. I already know this. I think he could win if we'd have instant run-off voting, but that's not likely to happen since the Democrats and Republicans are keeping everyone else out. I hope for the lesser of two evils (John Kerry) because if Bush is elected it will mean the possible complete destruction of America and perhaps the world. At the very least it will mean there will no longer be any trace of the freedoms or principles upon which America was built. I'd seriously consider moving to another country, but no country would be safe with Bush in office...especially the USA. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

10-18-2004, 03:50 PM	#45
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	This isn't the first time that Radar has said something like his comment above...he's still here, isn't he? Or is he?

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