7/27/2004: PETA love-in for vegetarianism

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by jaguar

because killing journos and sinking a private boat protesting that oh-so-defenceable activity of irradiating the pacific is a defenceable act.

We can't fall into the habit of dismissing everything they do just because they are a bunch of wackos.

Nuclear waste is bad, no doubt. What's the word on renewed radioactive fuels these days by the way?

[jdbutler]

When they finish, will it be "P.E.T.A. bred"?

[Catwoman]

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

We can't fall into the habit of dismissing everything they do just because they are a bunch of wackos.

Indeed, that would be an ad hominem argument.

They are fucked up though.

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by Catwoman

Indeed, that would be an ad hominem argument.

They are fucked up though.

That's the problem, their fuckupedness severly damages a legitimate issue.

Is there a moderate/centrist environmental group out there?

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

Is there a moderate/centrist environmental group out there?

There used to be ... Nature Conservancy and The Sierra Club (they do a nice appointment calendar) always seemed fairly moderate, however one of these organizations, I seem to recall, hired or appointed some notoriously radical member of Greenpeace to a position with impact on the org's mission and activities.

[Undertoad]

Where's the smiley for groan.

:p

[dar512]

Here you go:

[elf]

I was amused:

Two bumper stickers, one car:

1: Meat is Murder!!

2: I {heart} my Shar-pei

Uhm, pardon, but what do you feed your dog?

[jdbutler]

[quote=elf]



1: Meat is Murder!!
Beat it till it dies!

2: I {heart} my Shar-pei
Hey dude, that's my Sharpei!

Uhm, pardon, but what do you feed your dog?
He's an Alpoholic...

I know, groan - groan.

[Cyber Wolf]

What's funny is that people are actually feeding their carnivorous animals a strict vegetarian diet. I believe there's even dog and cat feed out there for that purpose. Granted, dogs and cats will eat grass and nibble greenery but it's for helping to clear out the GI tract, not for food. It's like a human eating nothing but Metamucil or FiberCon and calling it food.

[jaguar]

Depends where you stand really. I mean there are still people that refuse to believe global warming is possible, despite the overwhelming scientific evidence and then those who just think we can turn up the aircon. Tell that to a farmer who's land is being overrun by the Gobi desert or a citizen of the maldives.

The thing is, when you really bother to do the reasearch the damage we're doing to our planet is incredible and the changes needed to make it sustainable are huge. Suddenly extreme just makes a bit more sense.

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by jaguar

The thing is, when you really bother to do the reasearch the damage we're doing to our planet is incredible and the changes needed to make it sustainable are huge. Suddenly extreme just makes a bit more sense.

I agree that change needs to occur, but like we've noted before, the nuts ruin their credibility.

How much does Greenpeace and PETA actually accomplish? Net gain, don't pick and choose.

As teh world grows more and more populated, credibility, the ability to overcome popular opinion to achieve an end, becomes more and more important.

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by jaguar

Depends where you stand really.

I stand in the middle.

The middle is where the results come from.

[Happy Monkey]

Some anti-immigration groups recently failed in a hostile takeover attempt on the Sierra Club, under the guise of "immigration causes overpopulation, which is bad for the environmnt."

Not relevant, but amusing.

[wolf]

Damn, if that had succeeded I would have had to reinitiate my membership. (yes, I've been a member of all of the organizations discussed at one point in time or another. I have many totebags.)