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lookout123 · 07-26-2004, 10:54 AM

Lsyc - please name a couple of organizations that are strictly for the advancement of the white man, and give specific examples of why it is designed to exclude others or hold them back.
the argument that everything is designed to advance the whiteman just doesn't hold water anymore.

ladysycamore · 07-26-2004, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

Lsyc - please name a couple of organizations that are strictly for the advancement of the white man, and give specific examples of why it is designed to exclude others or hold them back.
the argument that everything is designed to advance the whiteman just doesn't hold water anymore.

*shrugs* If you say so. That's your opinion though. I feel that the deck is still stacked against non-whites.

As far as orgs, I already named one...in fact you named it first on your list: the NAAWP. You can go to their website and see for yourself. Plus, you can easily do a Google search under "white supremacy groups" and see plenty of groups designed for the advancement of the white man and their mission statements.

Troubleshooter · 07-26-2004, 01:15 PM

*reaches for his asbestos blankey*

lookout123 · 07-26-2004, 01:15 PM

no i mean groups that are acceptable within the mainstream. not groups that most everyone writes off as being wackjobs. when you step up and cite white supremecy groups as existing for the advancement of white people it is just silly. most white people would gladly take a 2x4 to those repulsive fools.
i am asking you for organizations that have a measure of public acceptance that exist for the advancement of white people.

afterthought: are you saying that you think the real organizations my list was based on are as ridiculously fringe-oriented as the white supremecy groups you countered with?

Happy Monkey · 07-26-2004, 01:16 PM

Advancement of white people to where?

lookout123 · 07-26-2004, 01:18 PM

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Advancement of white people to where?

just pulled the word advancement from the NAACP.

Happy Monkey · 07-26-2004, 01:20 PM

The point of black groups is to provide resources for a group that they consider to be underserved by the rest of society. What would be the point of a white advancement assocation?

Troubleshooter · 07-26-2004, 01:25 PM

I think that the crux of the issue is the difference between entitlement vs. opportunity.

lookout123 · 07-26-2004, 01:29 PM

*ding ding ding* TS has nailed it!

again, we are not guaranteed "life, liberty, and happiness"
only "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"

wolf · 07-26-2004, 01:29 PM

Well, the organization's mission statement is on their home page, if you'd care to visit.

Happy Monkey · 07-26-2004, 01:31 PM

And blacks are the largest group that was systematically denied those three.

lookout123 · 07-26-2004, 01:32 PM

talk to me about TODAY. no one denies that bad evil shit happened. the point is every day is a new day. how is anyone (other than anecdotal cases) in america denied "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" on 7/26/2004?

Troubleshooter · 07-26-2004, 01:34 PM

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Well, the organization's mission statement is on their home page, if you'd care to visit.

I'm rather certain that they were being lumped in with the wackos to be dismissed.

lookout123 · 07-26-2004, 01:43 PM

having just perused their site - i am sure as hell dismissing them.

here is the thing - if you only look at the mission statement, you're like "damn straight!" you wonder to yourself who in their right mind would disagree with the premise of the organization. but then you get into the their articles, and it is a supremecy group.

ladysycamore · 07-26-2004, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

no i mean groups that are acceptable within the mainstream. not groups that most everyone writes off as being wackjobs. when you step up and cite white supremecy groups as existing for the advancement of white people it is just silly. most white people would gladly take a 2x4 to those repulsive fools.

And some are more than willing to join up. Especially now that racism has a place online, it's just too easy now.

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i am asking you for organizations that have a measure of public acceptance that exist for the advancement of white people.

Like I said, they don't have names.

And what does this mean for me if I can't name any orgs that have a measure of public acceptance that exist for the advancement of white people?

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afterthought: are you saying that you think the real organizations my list was based on are as ridiculously fringe-oriented as the white supremecy groups you countered with?

Oh those were real??? I thought only the NAAWP was. Interesting. No, I just think that they are "typical". *shrugs*

07-26-2004, 10:54 AM	#31
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	Lsyc - please name a couple of organizations that are strictly for the advancement of the white man, and give specific examples of why it is designed to exclude others or hold them back. the argument that everything is designed to advance the whiteman just doesn't hold water anymore. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

07-26-2004, 01:15 PM	#33
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	reaches for his asbestos blankey __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

07-26-2004, 01:15 PM	#34
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	no i mean groups that are acceptable within the mainstream. not groups that most everyone writes off as being wackjobs. when you step up and cite white supremecy groups as existing for the advancement of white people it is just silly. most white people would gladly take a 2x4 to those repulsive fools. i am asking you for organizations that have a measure of public acceptance that exist for the advancement of white people. afterthought: are you saying that you think the real organizations my list was based on are as ridiculously fringe-oriented as the white supremecy groups you countered with? __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

07-26-2004, 01:16 PM	#35
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Advancement of white people to where? __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

07-26-2004, 01:20 PM	#37
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	The point of black groups is to provide resources for a group that they consider to be underserved by the rest of society. What would be the point of a white advancement assocation? __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

07-26-2004, 01:25 PM	#38
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	I think that the crux of the issue is the difference between entitlement vs. opportunity. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

07-26-2004, 01:29 PM	#39
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	ding ding ding TS has nailed it! again, we are not guaranteed "life, liberty, and happiness" only "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

07-26-2004, 01:29 PM	#40
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Well, the organization's mission statement is on their home page, if you'd care to visit.

07-26-2004, 01:31 PM	#41
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	And blacks are the largest group that was systematically denied those three. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

07-26-2004, 01:32 PM	#42
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	talk to me about TODAY. no one denies that bad evil shit happened. the point is every day is a new day. how is anyone (other than anecdotal cases) in america denied "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" on 7/26/2004? __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

07-26-2004, 01:43 PM	#44
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	having just perused their site - i am sure as hell dismissing them. here is the thing - if you only look at the mission statement, you're like "damn straight!" you wonder to yourself who in their right mind would disagree with the premise of the organization. but then you get into the their articles, and it is a supremecy group. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

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