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Old 09-23-2003, 02:19 PM   #31
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Personally, I find the lyrics to that song to be very offensive. I won't call myself a wretch, and I think any ideology that encouages such thinking is potentially quite dangerous.
You're using the wrong definition of wretch. The primary definition according to Webster is "1 : a miserable person : one who is profoundly unhappy or in great misfortune"

See John Newton's story here

Also while I like "Amazing Grace", my favorite hymn is of a different sort. See "It is Well with my Soul"
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Old 09-23-2003, 02:38 PM   #32
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That <i>is</i> the definition I'm using. Interesting link, anyway. I never knew the song's origins!

This quote from the link describes the problem I have with the song:<i><blockquote>For the rest of his life he observed the anniversary of May 10, 1748 as the day of his conversion, a day of humiliation in which he subjected his will to a higher power.</blockquote></i>I just think that's terrible. And I think being humble is a pretty important quality in a person.
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Old 09-23-2003, 02:49 PM   #33
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Personally, I find the lyrics to that song to be very offensive. I won't call myself a wretch, and I think any ideology that encouages such thinking is potentially quite dangerous. It's like, the complete opposite of the philosophy I described in the Lovebugz thread.

Of course, I'm not dissing anyone that likes the song (that'd be everyone). It's just my opinion regarding my interpretation of the message.
sigh.

bagpipes play the music, they don't recite the lyrics.
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Old 09-23-2003, 02:50 PM   #34
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(Those who know me understand that "things that make me cry" is a pretty short list. "Things that make me reload" is a pretty long list.)

Still LMAO......
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Old 09-23-2003, 02:52 PM   #35
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http://www.snopes.com/religion/amazing.htm for more info.
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Old 09-23-2003, 03:00 PM   #36
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bagpipes play the music, they don't recite the lyrics.
I know. I just figured my view was rare and crazy enough that it might be interesting on it's own. ;)
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Old 09-23-2003, 03:08 PM   #37
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On a partially unrelated thought, I decided some years ago that when I died, I wanted to be posed rather than placed in a box, and would like "Prop me up beside the jukebox when I die" played, in lieu of any really meaningful stuff.

It's important to get last licks when you can.

My brother also suggested a push button that would activate a remote control system which would point my arm to a random person and in my voice, cry, "You Killed Me!"
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Old 09-23-2003, 05:54 PM   #38
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Going by the picture that thing, at best, has a 2 1/2" speaker. I haven't heard one of these things, but I recognize a cheesy small speaker when I hear one.
Ah, but that little speaker is as big as the sound in a normal bugle at that point. The horn takes over after that. Mr Bose made a fortune with that concept.
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Old 09-23-2003, 06:06 PM   #39
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From the link on Newton's story;
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He continued in the slave trade for a time after his conversion; however, he saw to it that the slaves under his care were treated humanely.
WTF!
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Old 09-24-2003, 08:59 AM   #40
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Ah, but that little speaker is as big as the sound in a normal bugle at that point. The horn takes over after that. Mr Bose made a fortune with that concept.
Mmmm. Could be. But my experience with Bose speakers is that they sound really weak without a subwoofer to back them up.
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Old 09-24-2003, 09:05 AM   #41
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Bruce -

That is how Christians try to justify other Christians' behavior. "He raped and killed that little girl, but he used lube and the killing was as humane as possible." Ridiculous, isn't it?
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Old 09-24-2003, 10:00 AM   #42
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I'm with 99 on this one. How can we get some goodies posted for our (female) visual pleasure? I know I'm leaving myself wide open for a Bruce comment here, but maybe it will stimulate some interest:p
Nobody's stopping anybody... post some yourself!
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Old 09-24-2003, 10:16 AM   #43
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Old 09-24-2003, 02:44 PM   #44
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I know. I just figured my view was rare and crazy enough that it might be interesting on it's own.
I get this mental image of a Quake 3 game, suddenly amazing grace bounces off a few walls, and then a bagpipe appears, skittering over the ground like a tarantuala.

Blam! Blam! *Bloot!* *Bleep!*

Yeah, "Amazing Grace" on the bagpipes makes me misty. So does Louis Armstrong singing "What a Wonderful World."
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Old 09-24-2003, 02:50 PM   #45
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Nobody's stopping anybody... post some yourself!
If I had 'em to post, I wouldn't be looking for them here. I was just kidding, BTW. I have all that I can stand to look at right at home!
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