Another positive step by my native state into the modern age... - Page 3

xoxoxoBruce · 09-17-2003, 04:42 PM

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The drop safety (Glocks can be dropped from a great height and will not fire. This is a problem with many guns. It was one of the design requirements of the German Army for whom the Glock was originally designed.

Are you sure that wasn't the French Army?

slang · 09-18-2003, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Undertoad
I remember thinking that the Glock safety mechanism is kind of minimal? Would you carry it without a chambered round?

If you dont carry one in the pipe, leave it home. Do you feel more comfortable with the notion that you might accidentally fire it (in the holster this is next to impossible) or that you are in a crisis where you dont have the *ability* or time to rack the slide ?

slang · 09-18-2003, 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by warch
I still don't buy it. I still think bearing concealed handguns is not a stabilizing force. I know you could shoot off your nads or the nads of an innocent bystander if you just applied yourself.

When drawing your Glock from the holster, keep your trigger finger *outside* of the trigger well. You'll be fine.

And if you're not playing "badass" by looking at it or showing off, it's perfecdtly safe in the holster.

slang · 09-18-2003, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by dave
Glock 21, Glock 21, Glock 21!

Good call Dave. I'd only suggest the mini-model (G30) for everyday carry. It has a ten shot clip too and if you feel like the world may explode in chaos during you outting you can bring some extra clips, they're only 22 bucks and can fit 5 or 6 in a belly pack.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-18-2003, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by warch
I still don't buy it. I still think bearing concealed handguns is not a stabilizing force. I know you could shoot off your nads or the nads of an innocent bystander if you just applied yourself.

Yes that's true. It's also the point. Having those among other options lets you control the situation.
It's not unusual to have doubts about what's unfamiliar.
There will always be stupid people that will hurt themselves and others, but they will do that with or without a gun. It's the people who prey on others that have to worry, because they don't know who is capable of defending themselves and who is not. Just the possibility of concealed carry protects many people that would never own a gun.

zippyt · 09-18-2003, 08:17 PM

I personaly have a Glock 23 , mid sized , .40cal 165gr Federal Hydro-shocks . I looked at lots of holsters and i like the fobus line , cheap in price , strong in construction, good value for the buck.
My advice is to go to a gun show , look at and feel EVERY mid to small hand gun . Autos are preferable but they can jam , revolvers come in MANY different flavors , and are simple to operate , now they only hold so much ammo (5-6-8 rounds) .
And unless you think you are going to get into a movie style fire fight 5-6 rounds should do .
Awhile back S+W came out with a knock off of my Glock , a local dealer was selling them for sub $300 after taxes I thought "hell Carol (my wife ) might like one of those" . We went down to look at them , she liked it but it was awkward in her hand , we looked at the Lady Smith ( designed for a ladys hand ) still funny in her hand , we went thru MANY different models and makes , untill one fit her hand , the salesman said "pull the slide back " she struggled and struggled , he said " lets go look at revolvers .
The first one she picked up was a S+W 649 , .357 no hammer . She said this is it !!! so we got it and went to an indoor range . The first 5 shots at 25yards were in a fist sized group on a man sized sillouette target . I thought begginers luck , but no she can put 5 rounds rapid fire in a fist sized group any where on that target she wants , and Carol doesn't shoot much at all . That goes to show you how important feel is . Yes the sigs and HKs will feel killer in your hand , but they will also kill your wallet . Torus makes some nice revolvers and autos that are lower dollar but still good fire arms . Good luck and good

elSicomoro · 10-12-2003, 05:25 PM

CCW in MO was supposed to go into effect yesterday, but was temporarily blocked by a St. Louis judge. An appeal is now before the MO Supreme Court.

Damnit, I knew some folks in St. Louis would try to fuck this up.

elSicomoro · 10-25-2003, 02:51 AM

The latest update

Elspode · 10-25-2003, 09:12 AM

The outcome of this is going to be interesting, to say the least. The judge's point for blocking CC in Missouri is that it is against the state constitution. However, the constitution of MO says pretty clearly that the Legislature gets to decide...and they did.

slang · 10-25-2003, 03:41 PM

Sounds like a weak argument from anti-gunners in denial about the true nature of the CC issue. But then again, what the hell do I know.

elSicomoro · 10-26-2003, 11:11 AM

I'm going to move this discussion over to the Politics thread, where I've included some more links...and I SO want to hear what Radar has to say about it.

09-18-2003, 08:17 PM	#36
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	I personaly have a Glock 23 , mid sized , .40cal 165gr Federal Hydro-shocks . I looked at lots of holsters and i like the fobus line , cheap in price , strong in construction, good value for the buck. My advice is to go to a gun show , look at and feel EVERY mid to small hand gun . Autos are preferable but they can jam , revolvers come in MANY different flavors , and are simple to operate , now they only hold so much ammo (5-6-8 rounds) . And unless you think you are going to get into a movie style fire fight 5-6 rounds should do . Awhile back S+W came out with a knock off of my Glock , a local dealer was selling them for sub $300 after taxes I thought "hell Carol (my wife ) might like one of those" . We went down to look at them , she liked it but it was awkward in her hand , we looked at the Lady Smith ( designed for a ladys hand ) still funny in her hand , we went thru MANY different models and makes , untill one fit her hand , the salesman said "pull the slide back " she struggled and struggled , he said " lets go look at revolvers . The first one she picked up was a S+W 649 , .357 no hammer . She said this is it !!! so we got it and went to an indoor range . The first 5 shots at 25yards were in a fist sized group on a man sized sillouette target . I thought begginers luck , but no she can put 5 rounds rapid fire in a fist sized group any where on that target she wants , and Carol doesn't shoot much at all . That goes to show you how important feel is . Yes the sigs and HKs will feel killer in your hand , but they will also kill your wallet . Torus makes some nice revolvers and autos that are lower dollar but still good fire arms . Good luck and good __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

10-25-2003, 09:12 AM	#39
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	The outcome of this is going to be interesting, to say the least. The judge's point for blocking CC in Missouri is that it is against the state constitution. However, the constitution of MO says pretty clearly that the Legislature gets to decide...and they did. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

10-12-2003, 05:25 PM	#37
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	CCW in MO was supposed to go into effect yesterday, but was temporarily blocked by a St. Louis judge. An appeal is now before the MO Supreme Court. Damnit, I knew some folks in St. Louis would try to fuck this up.

10-25-2003, 02:51 AM	#38
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	The latest update

10-25-2003, 03:41 PM	#40
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	Sounds like a weak argument from anti-gunners in denial about the true nature of the CC issue. But then again, what the hell do I know.

10-26-2003, 11:11 AM	#41
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I'm going to move this discussion over to the Politics thread, where I've included some more links...and I SO want to hear what Radar has to say about it.

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