I hate you - Page 3

juju · 08-27-2003, 09:06 PM

I don't think there was a Pangea when primates started walking. Otherwise they needn't have gone via the Bering Straight.

In any case, they know the direction of migration by dating the oldest known hominid fossils in each area of the earth.

elSicomoro · 08-27-2003, 09:16 PM

You're right, Juju. Man, I don't know what the fuck I was thinking on that Pangaea thing...maybe the dinosaurs. *shrugs*

elSicomoro · 08-27-2003, 09:21 PM

Here's a cool little animation bit I found on the breakup of Pangaea.

juju · 08-27-2003, 09:26 PM

neat.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-27-2003, 10:39 PM

Great link, Syc. Clicking the "visualizations" button in the upper left leads to all kinds of interesting stuff.

LUVBUGZ · 08-28-2003, 02:51 PM

Syc, maybe you could give me your opinion on this phenomenon.

Why is it that black's get so pissed off about the "N" word when I constantly here them using it freely amongst themselves? Ex. "What up nigga?

When I was younger I remember hanging around some black people who were throwing this around left and right and in my feeble (ignorant) attempt to fit in I said it too and almost got my fat cracker ass kicked?

08-28-2003, 03:43 PM

Well, it's stupid, but basically the reason is because white folks haven't earned the right to use that word in a respectful manner. That's what the blacks that use it seem to think, anyway.

elSicomoro · 08-28-2003, 06:02 PM

I agree, although I wouldn't put it that way, and I wouldn't call it stupid. With younger blacks, it's like a term of empowerment, e.g. "Queer Nation." It's "their special word" for them to have among themselves...taking it back from Whitey and making it their own. With older blacks (and overall), it still holds a powerful derogatory connotation when used by a white person.

I understand where folks are coming from on that, and I'll even agree that it's overused.

Now, watch this:

Dave, you're just another dumb nigger.

If you're cool with particular people, and you know that various words won't offend, then use away. But when in doubt, don't use 'em.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-28-2003, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Dave, you're just another dumb nigger.

Uh..shouldn't that be nigga?

elSicomoro · 08-28-2003, 06:29 PM

Well, Dave is my nigga, but he's also a dumb nigger.

Griff · 08-28-2003, 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by dave
Well, it's stupid, but basically the reason is because white folks haven't earned the right to use that word in a respectful manner. That's what the blacks that use it seem to think, anyway.

By the same token, BUGZ shouldn't let anybody but a fellow cracker call her a cracker... of course that's not the way the world works.

elSicomoro · 08-28-2003, 07:21 PM

I thought I was going to fall out of my chair when my 70 year old father-in-law called this woman he didn't like a "poor white cracker."

LUVBUGZ · 08-29-2003, 02:24 AM

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Originally posted by dave
Well, it's stupid, but basically the reason is because white folks haven't earned the right to use that word in a respectful manner. That's what the blacks that use it seem to think, anyway.

I don't see how it could ever be used respectfully by anyone black or white. When the blacks use it it seems to be used jovially, but not necessarily as a term of respect. Kinda like me (cracker) saying "What up dumb ass" to Syc or Bruce (crackers too!). It is in a joking manner, but not really respectful. I see what you're trying to say though.

LUVBUGZ · 08-29-2003, 02:36 AM

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Originally posted by sycamore
I agree, although I wouldn't put it that way, and I wouldn't call it stupid. With younger blacks, it's like a term of empowerment, e.g. "Queer Nation." It's "their special word" for them to have among themselves...taking it back from Whitey and making it their own. With older blacks (and overall), it still holds a powerful derogatory connotation when used by a white person.

Yea, I see what you guys are saying, but at the same time if white people had a "special" word just for us crackers, you could be sure that we would be looked upon in a negative manner for that. Kinda like white pride. If a white person goes around saying they are proud to be white or displays this in any form, then they are looked at as a racist. I'm not talking about waving a Confederate flag around or anything, but simply expressing to others that they are proud to be white. What's up w/ that niggas?:p

08-29-2003, 06:56 AM

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Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
It is in a joking manner, but not really respectful. I see what you're trying to say though.

I'm not trying to say anything. I said it. Whether or not you believe it is up to you.

This is a problem with a lot of people on here; they read what someone says, and think they mean something else. No matter how much you clarify, someone will always ruin it.

08-27-2003, 10:39 PM	#35
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Great link, Syc. Clicking the "visualizations" button in the upper left leads to all kinds of interesting stuff. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-28-2003, 02:51 PM	#36
LUVBUGZ Not aging gracefully. Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 530	Race Relations Syc, maybe you could give me your opinion on this phenomenon. Why is it that black's get so pissed off about the "N" word when I constantly here them using it freely amongst themselves? Ex. "What up nigga? When I was younger I remember hanging around some black people who were throwing this around left and right and in my feeble (ignorant) attempt to fit in I said it too and almost got my fat cracker ass kicked? __________________ You can't catch me...don't even try...go do something else...see ya next year. Mama Loves You Baby Girl ~ May You Rest In Peace

08-27-2003, 09:06 PM	#31
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	I don't think there was a Pangea when primates started walking. Otherwise they needn't have gone via the Bering Straight. In any case, they know the direction of migration by dating the oldest known hominid fossils in each area of the earth.

08-27-2003, 09:16 PM	#32
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	You're right, Juju. Man, I don't know what the fuck I was thinking on that Pangaea thing...maybe the dinosaurs. shrugs

08-27-2003, 09:21 PM	#33
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Here's a cool little animation bit I found on the breakup of Pangaea.

08-27-2003, 09:26 PM	#34
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	neat.

08-28-2003, 03:43 PM	#37
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Well, it's stupid, but basically the reason is because white folks haven't earned the right to use that word in a respectful manner. That's what the blacks that use it seem to think, anyway.

08-28-2003, 06:02 PM	#38
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I agree, although I wouldn't put it that way, and I wouldn't call it stupid. With younger blacks, it's like a term of empowerment, e.g. "Queer Nation." It's "their special word" for them to have among themselves...taking it back from Whitey and making it their own. With older blacks (and overall), it still holds a powerful derogatory connotation when used by a white person. I understand where folks are coming from on that, and I'll even agree that it's overused. Now, watch this: Dave, you're just another dumb nigger. If you're cool with particular people, and you know that various words won't offend, then use away. But when in doubt, don't use 'em.

08-28-2003, 06:29 PM	#40
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Well, Dave is my nigga, but he's also a dumb nigger.

08-28-2003, 07:21 PM	#42
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I thought I was going to fall out of my chair when my 70 year old father-in-law called this woman he didn't like a "poor white cracker."

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