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Old 04-21-2019, 08:31 PM   #1
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"hundreds of them"

hundreds, thousands, millions: makes no difference

stop watchin' commercials
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Old 04-22-2019, 01:17 AM   #2
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It's not commercials to stop watching it's not that obvious.
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Old 04-22-2019, 12:24 PM   #3
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Old 04-22-2019, 04:26 PM   #4
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Watergate's Woodward: FBI, CIA Handling Of Dossier "Needs To Be Investigated"

The Steele Dossier, which may have been ( read was ) used to trigger this whole witch hunt looks a bit like garbage. And everyone involved knew it was before the Mueller probe began.

Say it isn't so Bob. The FBI and the CIA might be weaponized against Trump? Looks like we may need another special council.

Looks like Mr. Schumer knows a bit about how things work if you aren't onboard with the government's agenda. Not the People's agenda, the government's

All sorts of things could happen to you

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Old 04-22-2019, 06:56 PM   #5
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"It's not commercials to stop watching it's not that obvious."

It's ads, yeah?

Sounds like 'commercials' to me.

I don't do facebook but, seems to me, if it comes unbidden to your 'page' or 'feed' then it's advertising; and if it's sumthin' you subscribe to then, at least a little bit, it's on you for willy-nilly invitin' mind-screwers into your 'home'.

Any way: when I think 'interference', I think of muckin' around with actual voting (dead people votin', machines hacked, intentional miscounts, illegal aliens votin', the DNC riggin' the nomination so the guy most dems apparently want is pushed aside to give the nod to the gal most dems apparently don't want, etc.)

Whacky extremist me: I don't see how ads, commercials, etc. constitute interference.
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Old 04-22-2019, 07:10 PM   #6
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"The Steele Dossier"

Yes, the great thorn, the grand embarrassment, the boil on don's tush: now it's being labled as russian misinformation.

If a russian fabrication: how was it supposed to hurt clinton and help trump?

Seems to me steele's book report was designed (mebbe by russia) to do the opposite.
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Old 04-22-2019, 07:39 PM   #7
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So, if this...

"The clandestine influence campaign involved the Internet Research Agency "troll farm" creating thousands of social media accounts that impersonated Americans supporting radical groups, planning and promoting rallies, and reached millions of social media users between 2013 and 2017. According to criminal indictments by the Special Counsel, those messages and activities "spread distrust towards the candidates and the political system in general", for example by discouraging African Americans from voting or by motivating conservative voters wary of Trump."

...was the case, and the steele novella was a russian fiction, then mebbe the point wasn't to generate favor for a candidate but merely to *wreck shit™.

If so: what does this say about americans that **our heads are so easily turned by shallow bamboozlement?










*always a good thing, even when the benefit to me is not up-front

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Old 04-27-2019, 07:38 AM   #8
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Misguided Unconventional seems to be winning the day.
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Old 05-03-2019, 12:46 AM   #9
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Oh yes you will; or, we'll hold you in contempt of The Cellar.

Red rover, red rover, send Griff on over.
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Old 05-03-2019, 04:46 AM   #10
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So many threats, accusations, and speculation. All of this will be settled on 15 May when Mueller testifies before Congress. That should give talk show host, liars, and wild speculators enough time to commit to their opinions. Then we can deal with what he really says.
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Old 05-03-2019, 08:40 AM   #11
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"15 May when Mueller testifies"

I wasn't aware a date had been set...gonna be interesting to see how badly the propagandists beat up on him when he doesn't follow the script.
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Old 05-03-2019, 09:10 AM   #12
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I wasn't aware a date had been set...
It will not be in the Senate. With extremists trying to wreck shit, nobody knows whether a projected date will remain valid in two weeks.

We cannot even admit this president has more respect and admiration for America's adversaries than he does for America's longest time and closest allies. If Richard Nixon can have a Saturday Night Massacre and things were never this contentious, then who knows what will happen next?

The French President recently said Europe needs its own unified military force. He then listed potential adversaries. United States was listed. That is how bad things have become in Washington due to a shortage of moderates in government.
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Old 05-03-2019, 09:52 AM   #13
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"It will not be in the Senate."

So '15 May' is for House testimony?

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"a troll Presidency"

yes: exactly
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Old 05-03-2019, 09:16 AM   #14
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This whole thing is a Chinese finger trap for anti-Trumpers. The harder they work against the trap, the most trapped they are by the trap itself. They get angry and work harder.

It remains a troll Presidency and nobody understands how to fight that. You don't fight trolls by attempting to out-troll them! That is always an utter failure. You fight trolls by ignoring them. You send them to Coventry.

The first mistake is getting angry at the troll. The second mistake is getting angry at the people with you.

"We're stuck in the mud!"
"Well FLOOR IT FOR FUCK'S SAKE!"
"That's not working!"
"SO PUT IT IN REVERSE AND FLOOR IT!"
"Now everything is covered in mud and we're still stuck!"
"THAT'S YOUR FAULT!"
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Old 05-03-2019, 09:58 AM   #15
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So many threats, accusations, and speculation. All of this will be settled on 15 May when Mueller testifies before Congress. That should give talk show host, liars, and wild speculators enough time to commit to their opinions. Then we can deal with what he really says.
Yes, wouldn't it be interesting if IG Horowitz's report came out just before Mueller's testimony? That report that exposes the witch hunt.

You know, the IG report that details all the corruption in the FBI in the lead up to the Mueller probe that was triggered by a fabrication ( Steele dossier).

That would be priceless, ol' Mueller get's his thoughts and papers together on how he's going to put the screws to Barr and Trump but then, uh-oh...reversal.

Yes, it's just fantasy but Trump's people are getting much better at playing the media game and that is where the opposition has the upper hand. No evidence, mostly media spin. Video clips of Democrats scolding imaginary people in empty chairs.

Trump might even declass and release all the source documents that prove the weaponization. Wow, that'd be funny.

Or maybe they'll just arrest Barr and Trump(s). Any way you watch it, things are getting good.
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