Food Deserts and Inequality in Access to Nutrition.

[Sundae]

Sorry, Rhi.
You've only been here five years. There are still some initiation tests you need to pass...

[Sundae]

Now in England, many stores sell everything.
Lottery, booze, fags etc. In fact you can buy drink from 08.00 (as I know to my detriment). Supermarkets and indepent shops.

And yes, some of the corner stores are Muslim owned, but why should they care how kafir kill themselves?
If'n they don't indulge themselves anyway.
Not being snide - I've known plenty of Christians break the Ten Commandments.

As far as I am aware there are still some places in Wales and Scotland that are "dry" on Sundays. Even that may be inaccurate - it is certainly against the norm. I just remember it from camping trips in my childhood.

[footfootfoot]

True. It's been about 20 years since I lived in Burlington, but in Bennington at the liquor store sort of across from Family Footwear on 7 I don't remember ever getting two receipts, but I also usually only get one type of hooch at a time so that might be why. Or maybe they have a way of ringing them as different categories?

This calls for a road trip to investigate!

[Ibby]

I'm pretty sure when I would send seniors out to pick up both beer and liquor at the BBO they'd bring me back two receipts.

[footfootfoot]

Originally Posted by Ibby

I'm pretty sure when I would send seniors out to pick up both beer and liquor at the BBO they'd bring me back two receipts.

Did power corrupt you?

[Ibby]

oh, no, it wasn't a matter of ordering them. More like bribing them with a share. It was usually customary to let them keep a couple of beers, or get them drunk once or twice if they pick up a bunch of liquor.

[infinite monkey]

But you kept receipts?

[Ibby]

oh, yeah, they had to bring them back so i'd know they aren't bullshitting me about how much shit cost. you gotta be careful when youre on a college budget. You gotta know JUST how much your booze costs you.

[infinite monkey]

True. heheheheeee. That's why we drank Old Milwaukee Light (Old Mud Light) because it was slightly under 5 bucks a 12 pack. This was in the 80s, of course.

Sinbad did a thing about 'college poor.' When you were happy to have money for the pop machine times (ours was 35cents and sometimes I still couldn't cut it.)
He said you'd find a dollar and be all struttin' and proud..."I'm gonna just hang out with my dollar."

[Ibby]

Bennington is all about the PBR, buncha hipster fucks.

[infinite monkey]

I have a couple friends (admitted 'billies) who LOVE PBR. Won't drink anything else. I have set of younger friends who drink 'Natty Light' (Natural Light.)

My nephew brought home a PBR rocking chair from college, so I guess it is all the rage!

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by Rhianne

But what has really surprised me most about this thread is that no-one has asked what Clodfobble does with 20 pounds of zucchini each week.

Minifob eats them, all by his lonesome. I peel them first, which removes more weight than you might guess. Then I chop/cook/puree them (not juicing, real pureeing in the blender,) and he drinks them in veggie smoothies all day long. It takes a lot of veggies to equal the same number of calories in a serving of traditional carbs.

I used to buy that much about twice as often, until we figured out Minifobette is allergic to all forms of squash. So she eats a lot more carrots and onions now, to make up for it.

[Ibby]

Are the liquor stores there state-owned/state-run or just licensed private businesses?

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by Ibby

Are the liquor stores there state-owned/state-run or just licensed private businesses?

I don't know about you, kid. Sending seniors out into Vermont snow storms to buy you booze? Any idea how hard it is to use a walker in 3 foot snow drifts? Never mind how difficult it is for someone with early onset Alzheimer's to keep all those receipts straight.

Colorado has licensed private businesses. However, down here in the Lost Corners, it gets tricky. My town is right next to the Ute tribal reservation as well as the Navajo Nation. It is illegal to even carry a bootle of booze for yourself, never mind sell any in either the Navajo Nation or on Ute tribal lands. They are located in an alcohol desert as well as a literall one.

Most Navajo's seem to have access to a pick-up truck of some variety. They solve the problem by driving over to New Mexico where you can find a gas station which also serves as a drive-thru liquor store at just about every cross road. They're open on Sundays, too which wasn't the case in Colorado until recently. Everytime I'm down that way and have to buy gas, I feel amazed all over again that I am walking into a liquor store to pay for my gas.

Needless to say, the death toll due to drunk driving is astronomical on both the rez and New Mexico highways. Folks here about warn newcomers to never drive on roads that go thru tribal lands on the weekends.

Go figure.

Perky Coloradans from around here also have the option of a casual walk across the state line over to Utah - I prefer the 70 mile round trip to the town of Monticello, myself, but the show-offs put in the extra 25 miles each way to purchase their poison in Moab. Utah offers the discerning booze shopper tiny state owned stores staffed by disapproving Mormons. People in cars run the risk of missing Utah liquor stores altogether, since they are plain with teensy signs, relegated to side streets and only open from about 2 - 7pm weekdays.

[ZenGum]

I'll throw in that a lot of remote Aboriginal communities have this problem very severely*. How much do you think it costs to truck refrigerated vegetables 1,500 kms to a community of maybe 500 people, most of whom are scraping by on some kind of government support?

This is just one of the many interconnected problems.


* For "very severely" I almost wrote "in spades". [hangs head in shame for even thinking it].