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02-25-2003, 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by jaguar
Chat...Grab an App called Proteus - handles every protocol, well thought out interface, some nice options.
I'm loving my 12" powerbook.

What are the specs on yours? I know 867... but tell me RAM, HD, AirPort or no, SuperDrive or no, etc.

Also, why'd you decide to go that over the 17"? I checked out a 17" PowerBook at the Apple Store (they don't have a display model, but they do have a single PowerBook 17 in the store, and I'm well liked there) and it's really not as big as I thought it would be. The screen is hella awesome though, I will admit that.

02-25-2003, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by jaguar
The share turned up on my desktop, i clicked on it and is dissipeared! Not amused.

I'm amused!

It's always worked perfectly for me, but I chuckle at that story. That's pretty humorous

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The other way round i can open shares but i can't write to them, i can't find an option to set permissions either, i'm guessing i'll have to dig out terminal and do it that way. A little dissapointing. Anyone got any advise?

I swear you can do this from the Get Info dialog (select a file/folder and hit CMD-I (Apple-I)).

hot_pastrami · 02-25-2003, 04:44 PM

Oh, another question...

Apparently my box came with OSX 10.15 (according to the auction description, I wasn't sure how to verify the exact version in OSX)... is 10.2 as big an improvement as I've heard over previous versions, and if so, what's the best way for me to get an update to 10.2.x?

Hmm, it looks like Microsoft's RDC requires 10.2.3 or higher either way, so I guess I'll definitely want to do the update, I'm just hoping I can do so without having to pay the full $129... but I don't see an upgrade version.

Thanks for any help,

jaguar · 02-25-2003, 05:00 PM

Get info....that could do it.
Still new to OSX.
12"PB, 640MB, 60G, SuperDrive, Airport Extreme. Basically decked to the max. Why the 12"? I wanted *portable*. I spend most of my day on the move, the ability to work on things virtually anywhere, knowing i've got around 3 1/2 hours of battery time is fantastic. As soon as i can i'll grab a second batt and be able to work a full day without needing to find and outlet. The 17" is nice, as a desktop replacement, but try using it on your lap on a crowded train (i actually do this all the time). When i'm at home i use a Sony 17" E220 (bloody nice) and MS optical mouse. Airport extreme basestation at home of course lets me move around, check cellar @ breakfast, leave chat open on the coffee table while i'm watching tv etcetc, it's ultraconvenient. 17" was too big and too expensive.

I find the 12" snappy, i mostly use it for lightweight stuff, wordprocessing, coding, some dreamweaver is about as heavy as it gets though i'm often running a few apps at once. The extra 512 made a HUGE difference. I loaded up the War3 demo as an experiment, before the extra ram is was often choppy, afterwards is was smooth as.

If you're thinking about it and you can - get a RevB when they come out. I've been kinda lucky, no warped case, no dodgy latch, no dead pixels, trackbutton is good now, was a little dodgy at first. The front of the case is starting to worry/annoy me though. Where the button to release the screen comes out the front strip bends out, then bends in both sides and it MOVES WHEN I PRESS IT (the area in front of the battery). I bought applecare, if i feel like it i'll take it in and see if they'll do anything about it. I've heard stories of guys that have returned 4-5 of these things before getting one that was defect free, right now i need my machine, i can't afford a week's downtime.

The whole shares thing is very odd, iv'e had all sorts of different error numbers but the vanishing share took the cake. It's kinda frustrating to have not only wireless but a full wired network running round the place as well (total of 7 comps, 2 ppl) and end up burning things to CD out of frustration.

And yes, the wireless is throughly locked down, WEP (yea, i know how to crack it too but it stops the lazy), closed network and locked to MAC address.

02-25-2003, 07:19 PM

I'm on dialup so I'll keep this short...

hp - Click the Apple menu, go to "About This Mac..." - that will show what version you have. Right off the bat, if you have iChat, you have a 10.2.x box.

If you somehow don't, man you'll be impressed when you get 10.2, 'cause it's way faster than 10.1... but I'm sure you have 10.2.

Also, the anti-aliasing options I mentioned earlier are under the "General" prefpane. I'm on my PMG4 now and just checked.

I dunno about the Home/End thing, I'm getting the same thing here. I'll ask 'em tonight.

jag - w0rd. I find my 15" actually really portable, more so than I thought it would be. I love the damn thing.

You're having problems that I've never experienced, and I push my machines pretty good. All I can say is, make sure you have 10.2.4 and all the updates, and I'll ask tonight at the Apple store.

jaguar · 02-25-2003, 09:20 PM

Yup, all updates installed. It's all very...interesting. I've managed to get the PCs to be able to read/write the mac now but i really want to be able to do thinkgs the other way round.

02-25-2003, 10:39 PM

Search Apple's Knowledge Base (on apple.com under support) and see if you can find something. I talked to a Mac Genius (their official job title) at the Apple store and he said that it definitely sounded possible, like a bug. I just thought of this - try checking under /Volumes in Terminal.app and see if the network servers are still mounted. It might just be a bug in Finder. If no luck, submit a bug report to Apple.

hot_pastrami · 02-26-2003, 12:39 PM

Hey dave,

Ok, it says I'm running OS version 10.2.1... so I guess that means I can use the update feature on the Apple site to uprade to 10.2.4, yes? Hopefully I'll be able to find some time to start using the system more often, I've hardly touched it since I got it. Spare time is just such a rarity these days.

Later,

02-26-2003, 12:46 PM

System Preferences -> Software Update, hit the "check now" button and install all updates. Some updates can't be installed until others are, so do this as many times as it takes until there are none left. Also, stuff like "iPod Updater" and "Brazilian Language Packs" you won't need to install, so select them and use the "Make Inactive" menu item.

10.2.4 is the latest; it's a 70 meg download for the combined updater. You'll probably also need the latest QuickTime and a few other things.

There's really a lot for you to download probably. I'll write up some more stuff later, when I'm not at work.

06-03-2003, 10:20 AM

So, Dave got his dual 1.42 with a Radeon 9700 Pro. My dual 800 was so fast, and this is even faster. I'm a huge fan of SMP boxes (this is my third now), and I'll continue to buy them as long as they're available.

Anyway... How's yours working out, hp? I use my P4 for gaming, but even Q3 looks awesome on my dual 1.42. I also bought a 20" Apple Cinema Display which is gorgeous. I'm loving it, and I think I'll buy another one (gotta spend this insurance money) and set up dual 20" displays. The only complaint I have is that the refresh on it is like 35-40ms and that means really quick Quake movements are a little blurry, which is more an annoyance than anything else. But since I have a P4 2.66 with 2GB of RAM and a Radeon 9700 Pro (and U160 SCSI hard drives), I'm not going to waste my Mac on Quake.

My setup is shitty now 'cause I don't have any decent desks, but I'm still having a blast. I can't wait to get set up in the new house.

But yeah. How are you liking yours? Any problems you're having with it?

http://msdelta.net/~dave/images/computers/temp-desk.jpg

hot_pastrami · 06-03-2003, 10:55 AM

Hey Dave,

Nope, no problems with the Mac, but I haven't been using it a lot. I have scarcely touched a computer outside of work in the past month or so... About the only Internet use I have these days is hitting te Cellar while on breaks at work (such as right now).

I get home and get right to work on stuff that needs fixin on the new place. Almost everything that requires immediate atention is now fixed though, so we should be able to finish settling in and resume a few of the normal day-to-day activities, like sleeping and computing.

Of course there's a HUGE list of things to do which aren't urgent but still important. I haven't had a relaxing, lazy day in weeks. And there are none on the horizon. Blah. I acknowledge that life is good... I have a woman I am madly in love with, a house, and my health... but it is also a little exhausting.

So, that's the long and involved way of saying that what little time I'v had to tinker with the Mac , I've enjoyed it. Hopefully I'll find more time someday.

That dual 1.42 sounds pretty spiffy. Very nice. Gotta love Apple's cinema flatpanels.

hot_pastrami · 06-03-2003, 11:22 AM

Interesting... Motorola has made progress with .13 micron chips to get ~20% more speed for PowerPCs.

Tobiasly · 06-03-2003, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by dave
I also bought a 20" Apple Cinema Display which is gorgeous.

I was salivating over those recently. I know LCD monitors weren't very good for high-fps games at first; has this really improved that much? There are no points where Quake becomes difficult to play because of it?

06-03-2003, 02:15 PM

You can buy other monitors that have better pixel response times; the Formac 2010 is a 20" LCD that has a 15-25ms response, which is supposedly blur-free.

No, it's not difficult to play; like I said, an annoyance. Just like I turned off the blurring in GTA: Vice City, I wish I could get rid of it on the Power Mac. But, as I also said, I don't have a Pentium 4 2.66GHz w/2GB of RAM and a Radeon 9700 Pro to <b>not</b> play Q3 on.

I'm extremely happy with the 20" display (think of having USB and power and the digital video signal all going through one cable - very very nice), and as I said, I'll probably buy another one. The image quality is great, I had exactly zero dead pixels, and it puts off practically no heat. What's not to love?

02-25-2003, 04:44 PM	#33
hot_pastrami I am meaty Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 1,119	Oh, another question... Apparently my box came with OSX 10.15 (according to the auction description, I wasn't sure how to verify the exact version in OSX)... is 10.2 as big an improvement as I've heard over previous versions, and if so, what's the best way for me to get an update to 10.2.x? Hmm, it looks like Microsoft's RDC requires 10.2.3 or higher either way, so I guess I'll definitely want to do the update, I'm just hoping I can do so without having to pay the full $129... but I don't see an upgrade version. Thanks for any help, __________________ Hot Pastrami!

02-25-2003, 05:00 PM	#34
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Get info....that could do it. Still new to OSX. 12"PB, 640MB, 60G, SuperDrive, Airport Extreme. Basically decked to the max. Why the 12"? I wanted portable. I spend most of my day on the move, the ability to work on things virtually anywhere, knowing i've got around 3 1/2 hours of battery time is fantastic. As soon as i can i'll grab a second batt and be able to work a full day without needing to find and outlet. The 17" is nice, as a desktop replacement, but try using it on your lap on a crowded train (i actually do this all the time). When i'm at home i use a Sony 17" E220 (bloody nice) and MS optical mouse. Airport extreme basestation at home of course lets me move around, check cellar @ breakfast, leave chat open on the coffee table while i'm watching tv etcetc, it's ultraconvenient. 17" was too big and too expensive. I find the 12" snappy, i mostly use it for lightweight stuff, wordprocessing, coding, some dreamweaver is about as heavy as it gets though i'm often running a few apps at once. The extra 512 made a HUGE difference. I loaded up the War3 demo as an experiment, before the extra ram is was often choppy, afterwards is was smooth as. If you're thinking about it and you can - get a RevB when they come out. I've been kinda lucky, no warped case, no dodgy latch, no dead pixels, trackbutton is good now, was a little dodgy at first. The front of the case is starting to worry/annoy me though. Where the button to release the screen comes out the front strip bends out, then bends in both sides and it MOVES WHEN I PRESS IT (the area in front of the battery). I bought applecare, if i feel like it i'll take it in and see if they'll do anything about it. I've heard stories of guys that have returned 4-5 of these things before getting one that was defect free, right now i need my machine, i can't afford a week's downtime. The whole shares thing is very odd, iv'e had all sorts of different error numbers but the vanishing share took the cake. It's kinda frustrating to have not only wireless but a full wired network running round the place as well (total of 7 comps, 2 ppl) and end up burning things to CD out of frustration. And yes, the wireless is throughly locked down, WEP (yea, i know how to crack it too but it stops the lazy), closed network and locked to MAC address. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

02-25-2003, 09:20 PM	#36
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Yup, all updates installed. It's all very...interesting. I've managed to get the PCs to be able to read/write the mac now but i really want to be able to do thinkgs the other way round. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

02-26-2003, 12:39 PM	#38
hot_pastrami I am meaty Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 1,119	Hey dave, Ok, it says I'm running OS version 10.2.1... so I guess that means I can use the update feature on the Apple site to uprade to 10.2.4, yes? Hopefully I'll be able to find some time to start using the system more often, I've hardly touched it since I got it. Spare time is just such a rarity these days. Later, __________________ Hot Pastrami!

06-03-2003, 10:55 AM	#41
hot_pastrami I am meaty Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 1,119	Hey Dave, Nope, no problems with the Mac, but I haven't been using it a lot. I have scarcely touched a computer outside of work in the past month or so... About the only Internet use I have these days is hitting te Cellar while on breaks at work (such as right now). I get home and get right to work on stuff that needs fixin on the new place. Almost everything that requires immediate atention is now fixed though, so we should be able to finish settling in and resume a few of the normal day-to-day activities, like sleeping and computing. Of course there's a HUGE list of things to do which aren't urgent but still important. I haven't had a relaxing, lazy day in weeks. And there are none on the horizon. Blah. I acknowledge that life is good... I have a woman I am madly in love with, a house, and my health... but it is also a little exhausting. So, that's the long and involved way of saying that what little time I'v had to tinker with the Mac , I've enjoyed it. Hopefully I'll find more time someday. That dual 1.42 sounds pretty spiffy. Very nice. Gotta love Apple's cinema flatpanels. __________________ Hot Pastrami!

02-25-2003, 07:19 PM	#35
dave Guest Posts: n/a	I'm on dialup so I'll keep this short... hp - Click the Apple menu, go to "About This Mac..." - that will show what version you have. Right off the bat, if you have iChat, you have a 10.2.x box. If you somehow don't, man you'll be impressed when you get 10.2, 'cause it's way faster than 10.1... but I'm sure you have 10.2. Also, the anti-aliasing options I mentioned earlier are under the "General" prefpane. I'm on my PMG4 now and just checked. I dunno about the Home/End thing, I'm getting the same thing here. I'll ask 'em tonight. jag - w0rd. I find my 15" actually really portable, more so than I thought it would be. I love the damn thing. You're having problems that I've never experienced, and I push my machines pretty good. All I can say is, make sure you have 10.2.4 and all the updates, and I'll ask tonight at the Apple store.

02-25-2003, 10:39 PM	#37
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Search Apple's Knowledge Base (on apple.com under support) and see if you can find something. I talked to a Mac Genius (their official job title) at the Apple store and he said that it definitely sounded possible, like a bug. I just thought of this - try checking under /Volumes in Terminal.app and see if the network servers are still mounted. It might just be a bug in Finder. If no luck, submit a bug report to Apple.

02-26-2003, 12:46 PM	#39
dave Guest Posts: n/a	System Preferences -> Software Update, hit the "check now" button and install all updates. Some updates can't be installed until others are, so do this as many times as it takes until there are none left. Also, stuff like "iPod Updater" and "Brazilian Language Packs" you won't need to install, so select them and use the "Make Inactive" menu item. 10.2.4 is the latest; it's a 70 meg download for the combined updater. You'll probably also need the latest QuickTime and a few other things. There's really a lot for you to download probably. I'll write up some more stuff later, when I'm not at work.

06-03-2003, 10:20 AM	#40
dave Guest Posts: n/a	So, Dave got his dual 1.42 with a Radeon 9700 Pro. My dual 800 was so fast, and this is even faster. I'm a huge fan of SMP boxes (this is my third now), and I'll continue to buy them as long as they're available. Anyway... How's yours working out, hp? I use my P4 for gaming, but even Q3 looks awesome on my dual 1.42. I also bought a 20" Apple Cinema Display which is gorgeous. I'm loving it, and I think I'll buy another one (gotta spend this insurance money) and set up dual 20" displays. The only complaint I have is that the refresh on it is like 35-40ms and that means really quick Quake movements are a little blurry, which is more an annoyance than anything else. But since I have a P4 2.66 with 2GB of RAM and a Radeon 9700 Pro (and U160 SCSI hard drives), I'm not going to waste my Mac on Quake. My setup is shitty now 'cause I don't have any decent desks, but I'm still having a blast. I can't wait to get set up in the new house. But yeah. How are you liking yours? Any problems you're having with it? http://msdelta.net/~dave/images/computers/temp-desk.jpg

06-03-2003, 11:22 AM	#42
hot_pastrami I am meaty Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 1,119	Interesting... Motorola has made progress with .13 micron chips to get ~20% more speed for PowerPCs. __________________ Hot Pastrami!

06-03-2003, 02:15 PM	#44
dave Guest Posts: n/a	You can buy other monitors that have better pixel response times; the Formac 2010 is a 20" LCD that has a 15-25ms response, which is supposedly blur-free. No, it's not difficult to play; like I said, an annoyance. Just like I turned off the blurring in GTA: Vice City, I wish I could get rid of it on the Power Mac. But, as I also said, I don't have a Pentium 4 2.66GHz w/2GB of RAM and a Radeon 9700 Pro to <b>not</b> play Q3 on. I'm extremely happy with the 20" display (think of having USB and power and the digital video signal all going through one cable - very very nice), and as I said, I'll probably buy another one. The image quality is great, I had exactly zero dead pixels, and it puts off practically no heat. What's not to love?

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