What the Cellar looks like to me - Page 3

Lamplighter · 11-01-2012, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

The flaw being, when the challenger is worse than the incumbent.

Write in your own name

... or mine

xoxoxoBruce · 11-01-2012, 11:58 PM

But then when the challenger is elected for lack of your opposition, you end up worse off than you were.

ZenGum · 11-02-2012, 12:03 AM

It is worrying that an intelligent, informed citizen who clearly gives a damn about things can seriously examine two candidates for the highest office and find both of them so unappealing that he would rather not vote at all.

Equally, in the subsequent discussion, no body even bothered to try convincing him that candidate X is worthy, but focused on other options and the impact of not voting. Candidate cynicism is accepted as a rational position.

The system is not well. Danged if I know what to do.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-02-2012, 12:41 AM

It has to be fixed from the bottom up, starting at the local level, by the majority of the voters taking an active role.

I guess we're fucked.

Clodfobble · 11-02-2012, 01:35 PM

Fixing the campaign funding issues would do a lot towards fixing the types of candidates we get to choose from.

sexobon · 11-02-2012, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum

It is worrying that an intelligent, informed citizen who clearly gives a damn about things can seriously examine two candidates for the highest office and find both of them so unappealing that he would rather not vote at all. ...

When Plan A (finding an appealing candidate) doesn't work, there are still 25 letters left in the alphabet. We have many other lesser; yet, valid criteria to comprise plans C - Y even though they progressively narrow in scope. Plan Z has just one criteria: vote for the candidate least likely to cause a distraction by getting impeached. Not voting at all is for real world dropouts who make excuses for spending too much time in their own little corner or some virtual world.

Undertoad · 11-03-2012, 08:35 AM

Aaaaand I just found out that the third parties made a late legal challenge and they will be on the ballot after all.

I don't think I will vote for them but the shenanigans still bother me.

BigV · 11-03-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Aaaaand I just found out that the third parties made a late legal challenge and they will be on the ballot after all.

I don't think I will vote for them but the shenanigans still bother me.

http://schwoozie.tumblr.com/post/34856654876/x

11-01-2012, 11:58 PM	#32
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	But then when the challenger is elected for lack of your opposition, you end up worse off than you were. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-02-2012, 12:03 AM	#33
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	It is worrying that an intelligent, informed citizen who clearly gives a damn about things can seriously examine two candidates for the highest office and find both of them so unappealing that he would rather not vote at all. Equally, in the subsequent discussion, no body even bothered to try convincing him that candidate X is worthy, but focused on other options and the impact of not voting. Candidate cynicism is accepted as a rational position. The system is not well. Danged if I know what to do. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

11-02-2012, 12:41 AM	#34
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It has to be fixed from the bottom up, starting at the local level, by the majority of the voters taking an active role. I guess we're fucked. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-02-2012, 01:35 PM	#35
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Fixing the campaign funding issues would do a lot towards fixing the types of candidates we get to choose from. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

11-03-2012, 08:35 AM	#37
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Aaaaand I just found out that the third parties made a late legal challenge and they will be on the ballot after all. I don't think I will vote for them but the shenanigans still bother me.

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