Florida Face Eater

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

I knew a pre-med guy who did meth in an attempt to get a 4.0 in college. He put in twice the study of his fellow students, and got close to his 4.0. But he got zero recommendations from professors - and thus, did not get into med school. Instead he went to rehab. He was otherwise a pretty good guy! I guess my point is, even with meth, which turns many people psychotic, personality makes a difference.

But Tony, every expert knows meth turns you into a psychotic knife wielding father raper... within minutes. How could that dude concentrate on studies and complete college? Do you think maybe the experts only see the people doing meth that were psychotic before they did it?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

But Tony, every expert knows meth turns you into a psychotic knife wielding father raper... within minutes. How could that dude concentrate on studies and complete college? Do you think maybe the experts only see the people doing meth that were psychotic before they did it?

I've done crank a handful of times, and I've always misbehaved while on it. Never illegal misbehavior, just being a dick misbehaving. I doubt if it was psychotic.

[Ibby]

oh yeah, WEED, totally not ever possibly no way dont believe it for a second. i was responding to

Our narrative is to say "some drug made him do that", partly because we don't want to believe that naturally-occurring mental illness can make someone do that. We want to believe that all people act according to their choices, and that bad choices lead to bad behavior, as opposed to the other way around.

[DanaC]

Not to mention some drugs are fine in isolation but mix badly with other drugs.

[Undertoad]

Hmm... no, I'm pretty sure the psychotic meth people are psychotic due to their long term addictive use. And using really potent versions, and smoking it to get it right into the bloodstream, over time their pleasure centers are just plain burnt out and paranoia sets in.

My friend was a careful user, very smart, studying bio, and still wound up addicted. But he may have been grounded enough and focused enough not to take so much he went over the line to that level.

The History section on Wikipedia is very interesting. For a long long time they didn't even know its adverse effects and it was available over-the-counter.

[Griff]

Did your friend put his life back in order?

[Undertoad]

I lost touch with him by the time I would have gotten news.

[piercehawkeye45]

There is still too much we don't know to make black and white classifications. The effects of weed change tremendously depending on strain and the person and seems to fall under multiple different categories.

I am not aware of any explanation for the effects me and two of my friends felt (we came to the conclusion pretty much independently BTW) while the other three people taking it felt no such thing besides being very high. Also, there are anecdotal reports of weed users experiencing HPPD (Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder), which only occurs from use of hallucinogenic drugs. I wouldn't classify weed as a pure hallucinogenic but it can have hallucinogenic properties.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Like all inebriants YMMV, depending of the phase of the Moon, weight of the jockey, and square of the date.

[Cyber Wolf]

Well since I'm not looking to make a buck and it has nothing to do with my job or its security...

High doses of cannabis can cause hallucinations and sensory distortions that can be very scary. Those who use the drug when anxious or depressed may find these conditions made worse. Panic and paranoia could then result.

Drugs that can ease pain are call pain killers. Drugs that can stimulate the nervous system are called stimulants. Drugs that can cause hallucinations are called hallucinogens.

[piercehawkeye45]

Weed can do all three.

[Sundae]

New face-eating sitch in China.
It's the beginning of the end I tell you. They're coming to get you Barbara.

Send me money for airfare, pronto!
Wolf, stock up on ammo and PG Tips and I'll be with you as soon as I can.

http://www.rt.com/news/cannibal-china-chewing-face-311/

Horrifying footage surfaced of an attempt by a bus driver in China to eat a woman’s face in the city of Wenzhou. This is only the latest in a string of bizarre cannibal crimes across the world.

*The Shanghai Daily reported that a bus driver known only as “Dong” ran into the middle of the road near a bus station in the Ouhai district of Wenzhou City, blocking the car of a female driver. The woman has been identified only as “Du”.


Dong then apparently attacked Du’s car, climbing onto the hood and banging violently on the windshield. As the terrified Du fled her vehicle, Dong reportedly wrestled her to the ground and in a bloody act of savagery began to eat her face off.

Apparently, Dong had been drinking heavily at lunch.


Witnesses say they tried to subdue the man, but he was so “crazed” that intervention was impossible until the police arrived to apprehend him. Du was sent to a hospital where she will need plastic surgery to repair her nose and lips.

[Cyber Wolf]

There must be something about the face that makes it prime selection for the cannibalistically-inclined head cases. ...the recent ones, at least.

[Undertoad]

Dr Drew points out that it could be bath salts after all: there's no good blood/urine test for them, and headline writers don't understand that not detecting something doesn't mean it wasn't there.