Toyota stop sale

[jinx]

But the OP story says

A new recall announced today by Toyota includes approximately 2.3 million Toyota cars, trucks and SUVs. No Lexus or Scion models are included.

Yeah, I'd be putting it in neutral or downshifting with the tiptronic thing long before the prayers...

[Undertoad]

http://www.dailyfinance.com/article/...assure/882812/

The company has said the recall of about 4.2 million cars and trucks is related to condensation that builds up in the gas pedal assembly and can cause the accelerator to get stuck. Dealers say the fix involves slipping a shim into an area where springs push the gas pedal back to its resting position after a driver has eased off the gas. Toyota has not commented on the repair.

[Lamplighter]

This may be turning into a roshak test of government and/or the Toyota Corp.
At least attorneys will be living off of it for years to come...

NY Times article

Early U.S. Tests Find No Toyota Flaw in Electronics
By NICK BUNKLEY
Published: August 10, 2010

The government’s investigation into complaints of sudden acceleration of Toyota vehicles has found no evidence of flawed electronics in 58 of the vehicles that crashed, federal regulators said Tuesday.
<snip>
Though federal officials said the investigation was continuing and they had not yet drawn conclusions, the raw findings support Toyota’s contention that electronics were not at fault and that many of the reports of sudden acceleration might actually have been instances of human error — drivers mistakenly pressing the gas pedal instead of the brake.

Toyota has recalled nearly nine million Toyota and Lexus vehicles worldwide to correct problems involving floor mats and sticky pedals, and lawmakers and some drivers have long suggested that a malfunction in the electronic throttle control system of the vehicles might explain some of the reports of sudden acceleration.

One recorder showed that both the brake and accelerator pedals had been pressed. Toyota has said it would install a brake override system, which allows the brake to stop the vehicle even if the accelerator is pressed simultaneously, as standard equipment across its lineup by the end of this year.

[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

This may be turning into a roshak test of government and/or the Toyota Corp.

Rorschach test?

[Lamplighter]

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

Rorschach test?

You're right... just one of my recurring senior moments

[xoxoxoBruce]

Merc, take your Toyota and press both the gas and the brake at the same time. Bet it stops.

[Undertoad]

The Truth About Cars details the pedal assembly that is experiencing too much friction:

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toy...lusive-photos/

[xoxoxoBruce]

Why don't they use the pedal they use in the Lexus and Scion? Why the fuck do they have a different pedal in the first place? I don't believe them.

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Why don't they use the pedal they use in the Lexus and Scion? Why the fuck do they have a different pedal in the first place?

First, the traditional fuel injection uses a throttle plate connected directly to the pedal. This pedal controls the throttle plate electronically.

Another untroubled Toyota pedal design comes from Denso. This pedal is manufactured (and therefore designed) by CTS in Indiana.

But again, Toyota demonstrated why the problem existed. Wantabe was removed long ago. Toyoda then said Toyota has many serious problems. You have again seen an example of why that failure probably existed so long ago and was ignored. Reports of this problem existed long before it became news worthy. To get the problem fixed, apparently Toyota has to replace the reason why that problem (and others) was being ignored. 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management.

[classicman]

cost? Are they made at the same plant? Does that matter?
(not a car guy)

[Urbane Guerrilla]

While we're mook-ing, I'm calling mook on you, tw. Less than thirty seconds of Googling would have gotten you Watanabe's correct spelling. You did not make even this minimal effort, and you come up short.

Language is not your first language.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

While we're mook-ing, I'm calling mook on you, tw.

Just another example of wacko extremists attacking a centrist because hate is his only objective. Rather than discuss the topic, his political agenda says he must post another cheap shot. As if Cheney and Limbaugh, et al rhetoric did not do enough damage to civility and informed discussion ...

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by tw

Just another example of wacko extremists attacking a centrist because hate is his only objective. Rather than discuss the topic, his political agenda says he must post another cheap shot. As if Cheney and Limbaugh, et al rhetoric did not do enough damage to civility and informed discussion ...

Bosh, son: I am Middle America, and you are fringe. Read your own posts and mine to see how fringy your thinking is, and how regular mine is.

You're a whiner, too. Babyish, as the above quote shows. Your entire personality is designed to keep anyone from taking you seriously. That should by rights include you. My political agenda is also manifestly superior to yours, and always has been since the day I came to the Cellar. You should adopt something better, and develop human, liberty-minded values while you are at it. Until then, you are highly defective regardless of your politics. Your inability to copyedit, and inability to conceive of copyediting, acts to undermine you. You have zip attention to detail, and your incapacity with any and all languages is a shame to you. Prostrate yourself and beg forgiveness of the entire English-speaking world, and then spell correctly, ultra-megadolt. Including Watanabe, which ain't but Smith in Japanese.

[Pete Zicato]

Hello Mr. Pot. I'd like to introduce you to Mr. Kettle.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

Hello Mr. Pot. I'd like to introduce you to Mr. Kettle.

Stoke the fire. What results is more exciting.