Rick Santorum applies for a new job - Grand Inquisitor

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

yea, me too.

Except for that durned librul free press.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

Except for that durned librul free press.

Except when it comes to grieving parents or what people do in their bedroom and "that durned librul free press" thinks it is ok to publish it in the paper. Yea, that over steps the line for me.

You are probably one of those guys who support protests at soldiers funnerals.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Except when it comes to grieving parents or what people do in their bedroom and "that durned librul free press" thinks it is ok to publish it in the paper. Yea, that over steps the line for me.

So you're for a limited, restricted freedom of the press.

Congratulations, so is Fidel Castro.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You are probably one of those guys who support protests at soldiers funnerals.

Ad hominem: For when you absolutely, positively have no argument whatsoever.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

So you're for a limited, restricted freedom of the press.

Congratulations, so is Fidel Castro.

Why do you want to get into what grieving parents do and post it in the press? What is your motivation?

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Why do you want to get into what grieving parents do and post it in the press? What is your motivation?

My motivation? The preservation of the free press.

That even applies to - especially applies to - vultures. There is no need to protect popular reporting.

You're either for freedom, or you're not. It really just comes down to that. Liberty ain't always pretty, get a helmet.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

My motivation? The preservation of the free press.

That even applies to - especially applies to - vultures. There is no need to protect popular reporting.

You're either for freedom, or you're not. It really just comes down to that. Liberty ain't always pretty, get a helmet.

Why don't you support a right to privacy for greiving parents?

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Why don't you support a right to privacy for greiving parents?

Because, last I checked, the right to privacy protects you from government intrusion, not from reporting. And the free press is the free press. It wins...no matter how much it might offend you and I.

Your argument is like listening to shrieking liberals complain when people bash Jesse Jackson for saying something stupid..."What about his free speech?", when the government did nothing to shut him up.

[TheMercenary]

I am not talking about the government. There is not really a right to privacy in the Constitution. I am talking about your lack of humanity for greiving parents and your desire to drag their grief to the papers. Why do you support that?

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I am not talking about the government.

The constitution trumps your sense of decency. Hell, it trumps your life, come to think of it.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

There is not really a right to privacy in the Constitution.

There absolutely is. Amendment IV is pretty clear...and every SCOTUS decision in history has affirmed a reasonable expectation of privacy based on it.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I am talking about your lack of humanity for greiving parents and your desire to drag their grief to the papers. Why do you support that?

Humanity has nothing to do with the constitution, or rights. Even that fucktard Fred Phelps has the right to do what he does. Does that piss you off? It should. Does that mean we can stop him? Absolutely not. Once you abandon the rule of law to react emotionally to any given situation, then all of your rights revert to mere privilege.

Either you support liberty and the constitution, or you don't. There is no halfway.

[TheMercenary]

Actually it is not clear whether or not the Constitution gives you a right to privacy. It appears that only in a few cases has that been affirmed.

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...ofprivacy.html

I just don't understand why you think it is ok for the press to come into your private life and then publish that information in the news. You can't have it both ways.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Actually it is not clear whether or not the Constitution gives you a right to privacy. It appears that only in a few cases has that been affirmed.

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...ofprivacy.html

I just don't understand why you think it is ok for the press to come into your private life and then publish that information in the news. You can't have it both ways.

Meh. Where it matters (a court of law), privacy is considered a right.

This is why it's almost impossible to get hostile testimony from a spouse admitted into a criminal trial.

This is why warrants are required to breach your right to a reasonable expectation of privacy.

In fact, privacy and property are the only two reasons for the amendment.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

Meh. Where it matters (a court of law), privacy is considered a right.

This is why it's almost impossible to get hostile testimony from a spouse admitted into a criminal trial.

This is why warrants are required to breach your right to a reasonable expectation of privacy.

In fact, privacy and property are the only two reasons for the amendment.

Meh. I hang my hat on a documented source from a law school over a bunch of 1's and 0's posted by some dude on the internet hiding behind a bunch of letters who thinks he knows what he is talking about.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Meh. I hang my hat on a documented source from a law school over a bunch of 1's and 0's posted by some dude on the internet hiding behind a bunch of letters who thinks he knows what he is talking about.

So you DON'T think a warrant is necessary to breach your privacy?

And there's no need to be a little bitch about the whole thing, you know.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

So you DON'T think a warrant is necessary to breach your privacy?

And there's no need to be a little bitch about the whole thing, you know.

No, I just trust the source of a documented well known law university for the opinion of Privacy as an issue of Constitutional protection over yours.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

No, I just trust the source of a documented well known law university for the opinion of Privacy as an issue of Constitutional protection over yours.

Or you could, you know, actually READ the constitution.