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Old 03-03-2009, 05:46 PM   #31
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Looking at the newspaper....

You are wrong. Being and intrisic part of a process and regulation does not equate into control. Our government has moved into the area of control in the last 2 months.
I said nothing about control. I said "interference". Totally different thing.
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:34 PM   #32
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I said nothing about control. I said "interference". Totally different thing.
So in your mind control and interference are not the same thing when it comes to government intervention?
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:44 PM   #33
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So in your mind control and interference are not the same thing when it comes to government intervention?
There's plenty of government control. There is no government interference, for the reason stated above.
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:46 PM   #34
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There's plenty of government control. There is no government interference, for the reason stated above.
That is a matter of opinion, not fact. Care to back that up with some examples?
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:02 PM   #35
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That is a matter of opinion, not fact. Care to back that up with some examples?
Examples of a negative?

How does one do that?
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Old 03-03-2009, 08:29 PM   #36
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So in your mind control ....
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Old 03-03-2009, 08:44 PM   #37
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:04 PM   #38
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He gone all caps. You'se done it now.
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:33 PM   #39
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Maybe his head will explode...
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Old 03-03-2009, 11:00 PM   #40
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This all happened after I called him Tigger in chat. My fault.
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Old 03-03-2009, 11:07 PM   #41
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lol - thats gonna stick! Tigger it is!
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Old 03-04-2009, 05:42 PM   #42
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lol - thats gonna stick! Tigger it is!
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Old 03-04-2009, 06:34 PM   #43
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Old 03-05-2009, 01:40 AM   #44
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Has TGRR ever been well outside America's borders for any great length of time? I have, and that's why I say TGRR is full of it. Brown-eyed. Not yet endowed with indepth understanding.
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Old 03-05-2009, 07:14 AM   #45
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The thing is, if you are for corporate freedom, then you are de facto against personal freedom, due to the vast power disparities between the two. The relationship between corporate and individual interests is a zero-sum game and it is my opinion that the Vulgar Libertarianism of Ron Paul swings that relationship even further in favour of the already powerful corporate elements.
I have to agree with that. I don't really believe you can have both. I am in favor of personal freedom and regulated corporations, because corporations will not regulate or police themselves, regardless of what conservatives believe. They have proven that, over and over and over.

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Ron Paul is actually somewhat creepier than the people who were in charge during the Bush admin. Sure, Cheney was an evil fuck...but he was pretty indiscriminate in who he is was being an evil fuck to. Ron Paul's associations with the militia movement is...disturbing, given the prevalence of fundamentalist Christian, sexist and racist sentiment amongst those organizations. He is close friends with Gary North, for example, who thinks America should be under Biblical law (such as stoning adulterers to death and barring public office from anyone insufficiently Christian - which amusingly includes most mainstream Christian groups). And there are disturbing themes in the Ron Paul Survival Report, which he either knew about or was too incompetent to check on, neither of which looks good.
Wow. I didn't know that. That's scary.
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