I'm angry this morning - Page 3

lumberjim · 10-28-2008, 03:11 PM

the point i started off that last post to make, but forgot to was this:

The cops that are doing the actual searches will (because they do it every fucking day) begin to pick out people that look like they won't put up a big fight about the whole thing....and people that are obviously going to be easy to search. They don't really WANT to catch a terrorist, they just want to fill their quota and have an uneventful day, and get home to their tv set.

SO, glatt, try looking a little nutty and keep open containers of mayonnaise in your coat pockets. or sprinkle white powder around you if they try to select you.

glatt · 10-28-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

SO, glatt, try looking a little nutty

I'm good at that.

lumberjim · 10-28-2008, 03:16 PM

i think hitler was a republican

smoothmoniker · 10-28-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

i think hitler was a republican

Nah ... he wasn't prolife.

Pie · 10-28-2008, 03:29 PM

Get an EFF swat-team hat, or an ACLU sticker on your bag

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Aliantha · 10-28-2008, 05:24 PM

They do bag searches when you go to the cricket here. They're mostly looking for musical instruments and alcohol though. People who go to the cricket don't usually worry about trying to shoot or stab anyone. They just go to get rowdy and drunk.

ZenGum · 10-28-2008, 07:33 PM

That sucks.

Most of the reasons why have already been discussed.

I think it is time for some civil disobedience. I'm thinking of sit-ins around the bus depot to prevent them from moving, or something.

This is stupid paranoia. It has gone to far. It should be stopped and wound back.

TheMercenary · 10-28-2008, 08:10 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg2n039txnk

TheMercenary · 10-28-2008, 08:18 PM

Hey, YAFI..................

classicman · 10-28-2008, 10:39 PM

But will it make it worse?

classicman · 10-29-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt View Post
With only 15 cops policing 1.2 million people, this will have ZERO effect on the terrorists, but it will have a 100% effect of violating the basic rights of each law abiding commuter who is coerced into consenting to a search or is blocked from their daily commute because they refuse the search.

Coercion seems like such a strong word there. They can ask - you can refuse. I agree that someone who uses public transit may not realistically have another option. The "for the greater safety of all" argument has been abused too much already. I dunno. I'm not happy about it either in principle.

glatt · 10-29-2008, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Coercion seems like such a strong word there.

It is strong, but I think it's accurate. Coercion is making somebody do something they don't want to do by have an alternative that is even worse. I don't think the majority of commuters want to be searched. The only reason they would submit is because they judge that submitting is better than being late to work and possibly losing their job.

classicman · 10-31-2008, 10:43 AM

They have that sign in most stores, malls and shopping centers.

glatt · 10-31-2008, 10:57 AM

But in those places, they won't search you unless they see you steal something. It's called probable cause.

classicman · 10-31-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

But in those places, they won't search you unless they see you steal something. It's called probable cause.

I am not positive, but...
If there are written notices specifically stating that is their policy, you have the option not to shop there, but they do have the option to search your bag.

In most cases you are correct, but I know that my local target store has thee notices and they do search bags. So does Costco and some retailers at the mall.

I found a Link

10-28-2008, 03:11 PM	#1
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	the point i started off that last post to make, but forgot to was this: The cops that are doing the actual searches will (because they do it every fucking day) begin to pick out people that look like they won't put up a big fight about the whole thing....and people that are obviously going to be easy to search. They don't really WANT to catch a terrorist, they just want to fill their quota and have an uneventful day, and get home to their tv set. SO, glatt, try looking a little nutty and keep open containers of mayonnaise in your coat pockets. or sprinkle white powder around you if they try to select you. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

10-28-2008, 03:16 PM	#3
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	i think hitler was a republican __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

10-28-2008, 03:29 PM	#5
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Get an EFF swat-team hat, or an ACLU sticker on your bag . __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

10-28-2008, 05:24 PM	#6
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	They do bag searches when you go to the cricket here. They're mostly looking for musical instruments and alcohol though. People who go to the cricket don't usually worry about trying to shoot or stab anyone. They just go to get rowdy and drunk. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

10-28-2008, 07:33 PM	#7
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	That sucks. Most of the reasons why have already been discussed. I think it is time for some civil disobedience. I'm thinking of sit-ins around the bus depot to prevent them from moving, or something. This is stupid paranoia. It has gone to far. It should be stopped and wound back. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

10-28-2008, 08:10 PM	#8
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg2n039txnk __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

10-28-2008, 08:18 PM	#9
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Hey, YAFI.................. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

10-28-2008, 10:39 PM	#10
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	But will it make it worse? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-31-2008, 10:43 AM	#13
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	They have that sign in most stores, malls and shopping centers. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-31-2008, 10:57 AM	#14
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	But in those places, they won't search you unless they see you steal something. It's called probable cause.

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