Finger pointing at its best ;)

[dar512]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You sound like my brother, who is 60, you are making excuses for the other camp as to why they disagree with you and why the other guy is wrong and you are right. Poppycock.

What? Seriously. What?

[classicman]

Originally Posted by BigV

I disagree.

I think classicman is uncritically posting a lot of information he's being exposed to. He's being neutral (ish) in his receptive stance, but...

*BUT*

The content of what's coming across his field of view is strongly slanted in favor of the writer/sender/etc. LOTS of that kind of traffic these days. I get the sense that he's trying to sort truth from fiction. What I don't see is much of an internal sense of what's real and what's not. And the little I have seen does seem to have a republican tilt to it.

I can't say if this is because this is how he's wired politically or if it is just what he's relaying to teh cellar. I don't know.

Perhaps from as far left as many of you seem to be everything I post seems to have a republican slant. Funny how when I talk to conservatives they all think my opinions have a liberal slant.
Thanks BigV at least you seem open minded enough to see where I am coming from - unlike so many others here. It must be so easy to just say anything from the other party is bad and tow the line. When you are in the middle you don't really have that luxury. I'm sorry that I'm not the best writer or communicator folks - I'm just sorting through all this as best I can to make an informed decision.

[Pico and ME]

Very sensible perspective BigV.

[Cicero]

He said horse-pucky!!

[classicman]

My view is not slanted one way or the other, however I find that the majority here IS slanted one way and I am trying to find some information from neither of the extremes. I find it interesting that it appears to be "strongly slanted" in one direction.
I find it also interesting that anything posted here lately which isn't pro Obama is met with instant and strong disapproval and assumed to have a "republican slant."

I am a moderate and as I have repeatedly said [AND chastised for] I am not pro one or the other, but the overwhelming views of the cellar seems to have become an extension of one party and very biased.

[Shawnee123]

But I think the majority here is slanted in one way, in this election, because the majority of people have lived through the past few years, and have made an informed decision as to which side they plan to land on, in November.

To attribute the slant you see here to individuals regurgitating views based on nothing other than party lines is, in my opinion, a grand underestimation of the intelligence and (mostly) open-mindedness of a large number of Dwellars. I really don't think everyone is towing the party line, as you say...I think most of us are just plain fed up with the status quo.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

To attribute the slant you see here to individuals regurgitating views based on nothing other than party lines is, in my opinion, a grand underestimation of the intelligence and (mostly) open-mindedness of a large number of Dwellars.

I really don't think everyone is towing the party line, as you say...I think most of us are just plain fed up with the status quo.

I thought so too - not so sure lately though.

Therein lies a great deal of my frustration. That makes very little sense to me - the current "status quo" is as much if not more Obama's fault as it is McCain's.

[Shawnee123]

I don't have that frustration because I don't see it that way. That doesn't mean I'm right (but I am...jk) but to me the difference is clear. To me, the difference is SO clear that it's hard for me to imagine that anyone who isn't a strict party line person can see it any other way.

But now I better understand where you're coming from, so that's good.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

To me, the difference is SO clear that it's hard for me to imagine that anyone who isn't a strict party line person can see it any other way.

Yup - their differences are very clear. I agree with each of them on some things - that is the difference between me and many of you. I am not as far left as many of you, nor am I as far right.

What it is that makes either of these guys worthy of my vote?
On the left we have Obama, who has accomplished what? What has he done - Really?

On the right we have McCain who has a looooooong history and has fought for our country - been a POW... so???? What does all that really mean? Does that make him more qualified - I dunno, but I still don't agree with a lot of what he says.

So I'm left again/still with experience vs idealism.

[HungLikeJesus]

Thanks. All this time I thought it was "toe the line."

[Happy Monkey]

It is.

[HungLikeJesus]

Now Shawnee's thinking"... love isn't always on time."

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

Now Shawnee's thinking"... love isn't always on time."

On time? The f*cker ain't even showing UP!

[Pico and ME]

Classic, from your posts its looks like your mind is made up too. You may not be sure you like McCain, but you really give off the appearance that you DON'T want Obama in the White House. I'm the same way. I don't know if I trust Obama to actually implement his 'change' policy, but I KNOW I don't want McCain (because he, in my mind, WILL BE more of the same).

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Classic, from your posts its looks like your mind is made up too. You may not be sure you like McCain, but you really give off the appearance that you DON'T want Obama in the White House. I'm the same way. I don't know if I trust Obama can to actually implement his 'change' policy, but I KNOW I don't want McCain (because he, in my mind, WILL BE more of the same).

Good grief - why would I bother with all this if my mind was made up?

Why would I want Obama? What has he done? Same with McCain.
Hmm, so I was correct in my assumption that its more of a vote against Bush than it is for Obama. Thanks for your honesty.