Why Be Virtuous? - Page 3

Cloud · 01-25-2008, 10:00 AM

no, I cannot completely discard society's influences. and when I don't act virtuously, I still have to live with myself.

I mean, that's why I've struggled with this thread. It's obviously naive, not to mention impossible, to act like you are not a part of society.

Flint · 01-25-2008, 10:09 AM

To me, the least convincing reasons to be virtuous are based on the so-called supernatural. I like a clear, logical reason.

I am, for instance, not dazzled by the fact that Jesus "rose from the dead" etc. but I do think he made a straightforward case for good behavior. I am quite certain that his message was either (or both) #1 intended to be convincing to a specific group of monotheists, with their own belief systems already intact, or #2 was misinterpreted by those specific monotheists that wrote it down. I lean towards the scenario where they could only hear and understand things in a certain framework, and that's how it got recorded. But I think there is also an element to it of Jesus playing to his audience.

01-25-2008, 10:00 AM	#31
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	no, I cannot completely discard society's influences. and when I don't act virtuously, I still have to live with myself. I mean, that's why I've struggled with this thread. It's obviously naive, not to mention impossible, to act like you are not a part of society. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

01-25-2008, 10:09 AM	#32
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	To me, the least convincing reasons to be virtuous are based on the so-called supernatural. I like a clear, logical reason. I am, for instance, not dazzled by the fact that Jesus "rose from the dead" etc. but I do think he made a straightforward case for good behavior. I am quite certain that his message was either (or both) #1 intended to be convincing to a specific group of monotheists, with their own belief systems already intact, or #2 was misinterpreted by those specific monotheists that wrote it down. I lean towards the scenario where they could only hear and understand things in a certain framework, and that's how it got recorded. But I think there is also an element to it of Jesus playing to his audience. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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