Bhutto dead in Rawalpindi - Page 3

classicman · 12-29-2007, 11:41 AM

As usual, well put els - I agree wholeheartedly. Most people would have willingly "run" to the safety of the US or wherever....

DanaC · 12-30-2007, 05:33 PM

She didn't just know the threats against her were real. She also had personal experience of political violence, with her father executed and two of her brothers assassinated.

I admired her. Despite the cloud of corruption she was the best chance of democracy that Pakistan had and she was brave and deeply committed to her country. Despite, even, the feudal nature of her dynasty (continued now by the selection of her husband and son as co-chairs of the party) she was a great woman and is a great loss.

TheMercenary · 12-31-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

She didn't just know the threats against her were real.

I don't buy that for one minute. She said so on numerous interviews that were re-aired within the days after her death.

piercehawkeye45 · 12-31-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I don't buy that for one minute. She said so on numerous interviews that were re-aired within the days after her death.

Re-read what Dana wrote and emphasis the "just".

TheMercenary · 12-31-2007, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Re-read what Dana wrote and emphasis the "just".

I stand corrected. I read it wrong.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-19-2008, 10:03 PM

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Interior Secretary Kamal Shah confirmed the arrest of two people in the town of Dera Ismail Khan in North West Frontier province, and said one -- a teenage boy -- had confessed involvement in the December 27 attack that killed Bhutto. He said interrogators were trying to get corroborating testimony from the other detainee before accepting the confession.

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TheMercenary · 01-20-2008, 08:10 AM

The more I read about it, the more I think she martyred herself.

classicman · 01-20-2008, 02:51 PM

Odds are heavy that this kid was/is just a pawn. The real questions asked much earlier in this thread remain.

Wait a minute - I thought she killed herself bumping her head on the roof of the car. What happened to that ridiculous explanation?

Aliantha · 01-20-2008, 04:33 PM

The video footage used by police to identify the shooters proved that she was shot before her head bumped anywhere.

TheMercenary · 01-20-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

The video footage used by police to identify the shooters proved that she was shot before her head bumped anywhere.

I agree. The bomb was a cover up, either by the shooter or by someone sent along to make sure that no one would be around to talk.

classicman · 01-20-2008, 06:31 PM

Srsly, did the gov't ever retract their stupid claim? thats what I was referring to - we all know and saw what really happened.

TheMercenary · 01-20-2008, 06:32 PM

As far as I know they are sticking to their story. Idiots.

ZenGum · 01-20-2008, 08:10 PM

The head bumping story is the most ludicrous piece of BS I have heard in a very long time.
Even if it were true, whoever caused her to duck so violently as to fatally bump her head still murdered her. But really, I'm somewhere between

and

in response to that story.

classicman · 01-20-2008, 08:17 PM

me too Zen - thats what prompted me to ask. It really scares me to think that a gov't which expects ANYONE to believe a story like that has nukes. :shudder:

Aliantha · 01-20-2008, 08:20 PM

You might be interested in the Children Overboard scandal from a few years back Classic, although that being said, Australia doesn't have nukes.

12-29-2007, 11:41 AM	#1
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	As usual, well put els - I agree wholeheartedly. Most people would have willingly "run" to the safety of the US or wherever.... __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-20-2008, 08:10 AM	#7
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	The more I read about it, the more I think she martyred herself. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

01-20-2008, 02:51 PM	#8
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Odds are heavy that this kid was/is just a pawn. The real questions asked much earlier in this thread remain. Wait a minute - I thought she killed herself bumping her head on the roof of the car. What happened to that ridiculous explanation? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-20-2008, 04:33 PM	#9
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	The video footage used by police to identify the shooters proved that she was shot before her head bumped anywhere. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

01-20-2008, 06:31 PM	#11
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Srsly, did the gov't ever retract their stupid claim? thats what I was referring to - we all know and saw what really happened. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

12-30-2007, 05:33 PM	#2
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	She didn't just know the threats against her were real. She also had personal experience of political violence, with her father executed and two of her brothers assassinated. I admired her. Despite the cloud of corruption she was the best chance of democracy that Pakistan had and she was brave and deeply committed to her country. Despite, even, the feudal nature of her dynasty (continued now by the selection of her husband and son as co-chairs of the party) she was a great woman and is a great loss.

01-20-2008, 06:32 PM	#12
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	As far as I know they are sticking to their story. Idiots. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

01-20-2008, 08:10 PM	#13
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	The head bumping story is the most ludicrous piece of BS I have heard in a very long time. Even if it were true, whoever caused her to duck so violently as to fatally bump her head still murdered her. But really, I'm somewhere between and in response to that story. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

01-20-2008, 08:17 PM	#14
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	me too Zen - thats what prompted me to ask. It really scares me to think that a gov't which expects ANYONE to believe a story like that has nukes. :shudder: __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-20-2008, 08:20 PM	#15
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	You might be interested in the Children Overboard scandal from a few years back Classic, although that being said, Australia doesn't have nukes. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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