Right to life - Page 3

Drax · 12-13-2007, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum

To Drax:
The isolation rule isn't a policy of the islanders.

Exactly. It's the leader's, and any truly benevolent leader would change his policies to benefit his people.

LJ · 12-13-2007, 03:20 PM

[kissass] our Undertoad is an excellent example of a benevolent dictator[/kissass]

lookout123 · 12-13-2007, 03:23 PM

and i, for one, welcome...

Cicero · 12-13-2007, 03:37 PM

I still like my answer the best...I'm having a moment. (Alone with myself)

Sundae · 12-13-2007, 03:43 PM

Survival of the fittest in the short term, contraception and an understanding of the island's capacity by all inhabitants in the long term.

Either the totalitarian method:
Each current family is allocated a finite amount of food via rationing and they decide whether 74 year old Great Grandma Gemma or 2 year old baby Gerry get the non-productive rations. Or they all get lower rations and their productivity declines until the weakest dies. Either way reproduction is severely restricted by order of the authority and unauthorised babies are either given to childless couples who want them or not included in any future rations.

Or the capitalist method:
Those who can barter, bribe, sell excess produce or steal it get the upper hand and can both reproduce and look after their old (although subsequent generations may choose not to, to consolidate their power). And those who can't, get poorer, weaker, more susceptible to illness and die off. Families can have as many children as they like, but the will starve to death unless the families become more ruthless than those currently in power.

I don't believe in a right to life. I do believe that people should be responsible for the children that they produce.

Cicero · 12-13-2007, 03:50 PM

Build Boats....... Get on them....Move on.....

HungLikeJesus · 12-13-2007, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cicero

Build Boats....... Get on them....Move on.....

There is no wood. All the trees were cut down, first for housing, next for agriculture, then the rest to clear space for Walmart.

Drax · 12-13-2007, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cicero

Build Boats....... Get on them....Move on.....

Even better.

Drax · 12-13-2007, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

There is no wood. All the trees were cut down.

Renewable resource.

piercehawkeye45 · 12-13-2007, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cicero

Build Boats....... Get on them....Move on.....

They won't know that there is land somewhere else. On this island, they they can't imagine not hearing the ocean. When I mean isolated, I mean no other island within hundreds of miles.

Clodfobble · 12-13-2007, 04:46 PM

I find it interesting that you chose to set up the question to be whether 200 babies must die, rather than 200 people. Do you think there's a reason you made that distinction?

LJ · 12-13-2007, 04:48 PM

yeah.....kill the oldest 200.....

Drax · 12-13-2007, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LJ

yeah.....kill the oldest 200.....

Do you feel nothing?

"I am Jim of Borg."

HungLikeJesus · 12-13-2007, 05:04 PM

But the oldest have all the knowledge and experience. Without them the tribe won't survive.

Aliantha · 12-13-2007, 05:20 PM

the old ones are just oxygen suckers. Put the world out of its misery. Top them all off...and do a couple of extra just in case there are any unexpected deliveries.

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12-13-2007, 03:20 PM	#32
LJ i am myself Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: via blackberry, maybe Posts: 750	[kissass] our Undertoad is an excellent example of a benevolent dictator[/kissass] __________________ Whether I shall turn out to be the hero of my own life, or whether that station will be held by anybody else, these pages must show ... -C.Dickens

12-13-2007, 03:23 PM	#33
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12-13-2007, 03:37 PM	#34
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	I still like my answer the best...I'm having a moment. (Alone with myself) __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

12-13-2007, 03:43 PM	#35
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Survival of the fittest in the short term, contraception and an understanding of the island's capacity by all inhabitants in the long term. Either the totalitarian method: Each current family is allocated a finite amount of food via rationing and they decide whether 74 year old Great Grandma Gemma or 2 year old baby Gerry get the non-productive rations. Or they all get lower rations and their productivity declines until the weakest dies. Either way reproduction is severely restricted by order of the authority and unauthorised babies are either given to childless couples who want them or not included in any future rations. Or the capitalist method: Those who can barter, bribe, sell excess produce or steal it get the upper hand and can both reproduce and look after their old (although subsequent generations may choose not to, to consolidate their power). And those who can't, get poorer, weaker, more susceptible to illness and die off. Families can have as many children as they like, but the will starve to death unless the families become more ruthless than those currently in power. I don't believe in a right to life. I do believe that people should be responsible for the children that they produce. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

12-13-2007, 03:50 PM	#36
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	Build Boats....... Get on them....Move on..... __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

12-13-2007, 04:46 PM	#41
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	I find it interesting that you chose to set up the question to be whether 200 babies must die, rather than 200 people. Do you think there's a reason you made that distinction?

12-13-2007, 04:48 PM	#42
LJ i am myself Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: via blackberry, maybe Posts: 750	yeah.....kill the oldest 200..... __________________ Whether I shall turn out to be the hero of my own life, or whether that station will be held by anybody else, these pages must show ... -C.Dickens

12-13-2007, 05:04 PM	#44
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	But the oldest have all the knowledge and experience. Without them the tribe won't survive. __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

12-13-2007, 05:20 PM	#45
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	the old ones are just oxygen suckers. Put the world out of its misery. Top them all off...and do a couple of extra just in case there are any unexpected deliveries. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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