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[xoxoxoBruce]

Damifino?

[Sundae]

By the time I think about donating, I don't have anything left in my bank account. Poor excuse, but genuine reason.

I certainly feel I'm here enough to get moneys worth for any amount I manage to scrape together.

So I will transfer some money into my PayPal account at the end of March and donate. You should get the money about the same time I get the next month's salary!

Either way it's as well to remind people, I'm sure many are like me - A+ for intentions, D- for actions.

[Undertoad]

Oh FWIW, I don't think poorly of anyone who doesn't donate. I really don't.

I just feel like I should make that very clear... anyone can participate at whatever level they like for whatever reason they have.

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by zippyt

just put him on your ignore list and get on with your life !!!

LJ is on my ignore list. Someone knew who I meant.

Originally Posted by Undertoad

I never understand posts from Sky. That is her own personal charm, she's the place's crazy broad.

If people don't trust me, they should not donate, and that's fine. If they don't donate because they don't trust other Dwellars, that's like shoplifting from a store because you don't like the customers.

Thanks for proving my point. You could have taken my comment seriously. Instead you walk right into it. You have to pick one female to target. You guys ran off Mari. I am sure there have been others. I am just saying if you want females to contribute then you should show a little more restraint. I sure the hell am not donating money to get punched in the face by UT and is watch dog LJ.

If you cant deal with that fact then fuck you

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by Elspode

I'm a little befuddled by that as well. Flames and other drivel are sort of par for the Internet course. That being said, this isn't really a place where people are allowed to be threatening, as far as I've ever been able to observe.

If you mean that someone here is being irritating, well...yeah. Sure. But does that make The Cellar unsafe for women?

Maybe unsafe was the wrong word.


but regardless lost money is lost money. Perhaps I had money to give but won't now.....ever because of LJ and now even UT's comment sucks ass big time.

You want to talk about money and contributors. You want to keep it on a human level then for christ sakes be nice. Make your goddamn graph but include lost sales for those women you've drove off.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by skysidhe

I am just saying if you want females to contribute then you should show a little more restraint.

I would just like to officially say, as a female, that if anyone around here starts showing restraint I'll get disinterested and stop contributing.

Originally Posted by skysidhe

I sure the hell am not donating money to get punched in the face by UT and is watch dog LJ.

And yet 1,568 posts later, you're still here...

[Undertoad]

Sky's PM to me:

You allow LJ to be the cellars 'watch dog'.

You allow him to call people crazy and he brainwashes you. You to me are easily led.

I think you and he are the crazy ones. Understand this. There are women out there looking in who may have money. They see how you and LJ respond to one user at a time. Someone has to be your "crazy person' You let LJ drive her off. It is a pattern.

I think I would show yourself to be nicer to women if money is what your after is all I was saying.You can take your tip jar and shove it up your ass for your comment about me.

We only ran off one woman, and she claimed to be desperately poor. See, it's not the crazy women we run off. Lucky you. It's the ones with no money, who will never afford to donate. THAT'S the REAL system.

Aw crap LJ she has found us out, what are we gonna do about this?

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by skysidhe

LJ is on my ignore list. Someone knew who I meant.

Thanks for proving my point. You could have taken my comment seriously. Instead you walk right into it. You have to pick one female to target. You guys ran off Mari. I am sure there have been others. I am just saying if you want females to contribute then you should show a little more restraint. I sure the hell am not donating money to get punched in the face by UT and is watch dog LJ.

If you cant deal with that fact then fuck you

Skysidhe I have never had a problem with you, but I do think you're being very rude here. Of course you are entitled to your opinions of other posters, especially if you feel they have treated you badly. And of course you can keep your money to yourself rather than help UT run the Cellar from his own pocket. But to specifically post to say you won't pay is a little like going over to someone's pool party and then pissing in the pool.

And to post again saying you won't pay to be punched in the face by UT (what? I didn't see anything aggressive in his response) and saying fuck you is unpleasant and unreasonable.

UT doesn't pull rank because he is a decent guy and doesn't want this place to be his own personal fiefdom, but I think at least we owe him common courtesy.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by skysidhe

Thanks for proving my point. You could have taken my comment seriously. Instead you walk right into it. You have to pick one female to target. You guys ran off Mari. I am sure there have been others. I am just saying if you want females to contribute then you should show a little more restraint. I sure the hell am not donating money to get punched in the face by UT and is watch dog LJ.

If you cant deal with that fact then fuck you

There is so much about the dynamic here that you do not understand.

We "run off" assholes, and do that only rarely, but fully in compliance with Title IX.

[Undertoad]

Sky, I really do think your incomprehensible posting style is endearing, much like Zippy's incomprehensible spelling style, and I would miss it if it were gone.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by wolf

fully in compliance with Title IX.

Goddamn, I laughed so hard I scared the baby.

[skysidhe]

@ Wolf and Sundae. I read your posts and get your point. Thank you for that.


I don't want, didn't want to make an ongoing argument but since yer off the fricken point. The point of women wanting to contribute money and they reasons they don't want to. My reason for not wanting to is valid.

Yes I think LJ is emotionally unstable. Yes ,I feel he targets women and UT allows it. Yes that makes me feel insecure. Yes I feel like they do not care. They don't care because they respond with ridicule and name calling. Yes that makes THEM crazy to me.

If you are talking about money then I am keeping mine. You'd think you would even care about losing the money I would donate. Before UTs 'crazy' comment I wanted to buy him a beer. fuck that!

To use your own example it's like tripping a potential shopper who comes into your store to make a purchase. It's poor customer service to let one of your workers harrass a customer...esp when they seem to be women. I'm thinking of Mari too. Then me or anyone else he can get a rise out of.

Im thinking UT allows it and lo and behold even participates in abuse. Well you only need to read his second to last post to be sure about it. He can't even take a concern seriously. What a fricken jerk.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

S'possible

If the amount goes over I would be forced to do something productive with it. What, I have no idea. In the olden days, I actually advertised, but we're kinda past that now IMO.

:twocents:

Hello?! Bank it against the (possibly many) months when the balance tips the other direction. I know my donation schedule is much more erratic than the billing cycle from your colo and your isp... if you have a month in the black, good on you. Use it to reduce the red glare of the other months.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by skysidhe

What a fricken jerk.

mirror?

You're still not getting it, even after claiming you do.

I'm done with this.

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Sky, I really do think your incomprehensible posting style is endearing, much like Zippy's incomprehensible spelling style, and I would miss it if it were gone.

well then can you read between the lines then and digg it?