8 men fined after friend drinks himself to death - Page 3

Happy Monkey · 09-06-2006, 04:10 PM

My freshman year in college, a frat got kicked off campus when a pledge died of alcohol poisoning at a party. In that situation, though, a frat is probably more analogous to a bar than a group of friends.

Spexxvet · 09-06-2006, 07:55 PM

If your friend Johnny told you you to drink more, would you?

tw · 09-06-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

If your friend Johnny told you you to drink more, would you?

Is it a question or is it 10 people demanding that you not 'put a bummer on the party'? That detail is essential long before anyone can answer the question.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-06-2006, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

If your friend Johnny told you you to drink more, would you?

If he was buying.

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Originally Posted by Tonchi

snip~ ...you are dealing with EIGHT Little Emperors out of control. Nobody is documenting the impaired condition of these so-called friends themselves....~snip

Because it was a family celebration, I figured there was probably an age spread, among the eight. Rereading the link doesn't clarify.

Ibby · 09-07-2006, 04:05 AM

ren ai went out with Mao.

breakingnews · 09-07-2006, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram

ren ai went out with Mao.

there's still hope, my friend.

Aliantha · 09-10-2006, 10:30 PM

To me the question of whether the friends should be responsible or not can only be answered by them. If they feel guilt over his death, then chances are they feel there is something they could have done to stop this tragedy. If in fact they believe they could have done something and didn't, then that lays a certain burden of guilt on the friends. Personally, I don't think fining them is going to punish them in any way. They'll carry this with them for the rest of their lives. Let that be enough.

I know I'd feel responsible if I were drinking with a friend who subsequently died from causes brought on by that drinking session. Wouldn't you?

xoxoxoBruce · 09-10-2006, 10:49 PM

Maybe, but if they were also drinking heavily they may just chalk it up to his bad luck. That could be a viable rationalization, if they were too drunk to realize he was in trouble, then certainly too drunk to realize he was overdoing it.

Aliantha · 09-10-2006, 10:57 PM

Yeah...that could be true too. It's always very difficult to come to any real conclusion when all you have to rely on for facts is the media, and as we all know, the media is not always 100% correct. I still think they'd be feeling guilty though...unless they were totally and completely morally bankrupt.

09-06-2006, 04:10 PM	#1
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	My freshman year in college, a frat got kicked off campus when a pledge died of alcohol poisoning at a party. In that situation, though, a frat is probably more analogous to a bar than a group of friends. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

09-06-2006, 07:55 PM	#2
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	If your friend Johnny told you you to drink more, would you? __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

09-07-2006, 04:05 AM	#5
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	ren ai went out with Mao. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

09-10-2006, 10:30 PM	#7
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	To me the question of whether the friends should be responsible or not can only be answered by them. If they feel guilt over his death, then chances are they feel there is something they could have done to stop this tragedy. If in fact they believe they could have done something and didn't, then that lays a certain burden of guilt on the friends. Personally, I don't think fining them is going to punish them in any way. They'll carry this with them for the rest of their lives. Let that be enough. I know I'd feel responsible if I were drinking with a friend who subsequently died from causes brought on by that drinking session. Wouldn't you? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

09-10-2006, 10:49 PM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Maybe, but if they were also drinking heavily they may just chalk it up to his bad luck. That could be a viable rationalization, if they were too drunk to realize he was in trouble, then certainly too drunk to realize he was overdoing it. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

09-10-2006, 10:57 PM	#9
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Yeah...that could be true too. It's always very difficult to come to any real conclusion when all you have to rely on for facts is the media, and as we all know, the media is not always 100% correct. I still think they'd be feeling guilty though...unless they were totally and completely morally bankrupt. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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