FOUR MORE YEARS

[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

Why DO conservatives whine so much?

It goes so well with the Republican cheese.

[Adak]

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

Boy's got a personality like his grapes: sour, that is. /foghornleghorn

Why DO conservatives whine so much?

No whine, just aware that Obama will have a VERY tough 4 years now. They'll make his first 4 years seem like a cakewalk, in comparison.

1) He can't keep spending money we don't have. Even his own party won't support more radical spending.

2) He's alienated the Republicans - and their party's base, quite a bit. I really don't think he'll get stink for cooperation with ANYTHING, now.

The campaign was long, and instead of focusing on his own policies for the future, (because he has few, and no good ones), he spent a lot of time with smear type attacks on Romney. His Justice Department has filed suit against every single state that tried to pass a reasonable voter ID law. He has cut back on allowing drilling for oil on Federal land which has area's for that, and last but not least, he took 700+million from Medicare (which part I'm not sure of), to fund Obamacare. If that doesn't work out well, the seniors will be in an uproar!

What else could Obama do? But that won't set him up for easy reconciliation with either Republicans or conservatives in general.

4) He'll have to answer an investigation into the abandonment of Ambassador Stevens and crew, in Benghazi. He may even face an impeachment hearing over that, for his failure to act, when he so obviously could have.

As well as he has been treated by the media (better than any Politician I can recall), if the word gets circulated that he was a coward and afraid to defend Stevens for some political reason, he may find the public hating the coward's guts.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Adak

First things first, however. Obama needs to take another world-wide tour, so he can apologize for our freedoms and success, all over again.

You are emotional. Even forget second grade science concepts necessary to have a fact. Your knowledge is based only in hearsay and what Limbaugh, et al says. Even a simple science concept about bread breeding maggots escapes your grasp due to so much emotion.

A logical reply would say why Romney lost. Only the logical can discuss honestly. But that means, for example, trying to explain why Romney, who once called himself more liberal than Kennedy, is suddenly an extreme right wing conservative. Its called eating crow. To discuss Romney's problem means discussing why you were so deceived by rhetoric. It requires a logical post; not more emotional tirades.

You cannot face facts. So you post sour grapes. Post emotion. Since emotion and subjective claims are your reasoning.

Harm to America was created by extremist rhetoric (ie tax cuts, mythical WMDs, trickle down economics, no grasp of basic military doctrine, massive loss of respect for America from 2000 to 2008, hatred of solutions that saved the America economy, etc). All that and more is slowly improving. As defined by lessons from history and explained by the logical and educated. It will take ten years to undo disasters created in 2000 through 2008. America is getting better despite wacko extremists who said, "We want America to fail."

Extremists are now waiting for Limbaugh, et al to tell them what to think. Four years ago, even Bohemer's speech defined harm America so that Obama would only be a one term president. Limbaugh openly said he wanted *America* to fail. Having done so much to harm America, now what will extremists advocate?

Well, the question can only be asked using logic. Same logic that says why Romney lost would predict what extremist will do next. Where is America going? Sour grapes are from fools who got us in this mess (unwinnable wars, recession, destruction to science, massive job loss, increasing income disparity, etc). How much more harm will extremists do to America in the name of political rhetoric and Limbaugh lies? What will be their next strategy to make America fail? Or will their strategy be something different this time?

Either one can post sour grapes and emotion. Or one can be honest. Say why Romney lost and what extremists will advocate next. Clearly "We want America to fail" does not work.

[DanaC]

*blinks*

1. Blame Bush: yep, given his administration's role in driving America into the worst financial trouble since the Great Depression.

It takes more than 4 years to fix something so broken.

2. Blame the Republicans (they won't let him do his crazy shit, anymore): again, seems fair so far. The Republicans made pledges on day 1 of Obama's presidency that they would ensure he only got one term. Their method for ensuring this was to cripple his efforts at every stage, blocking actions that would potentially help the economy, wilfully driving the nation's finances off a fucking cliff, because anything, up to and including total financial meltdown and a bankrupt state is better than another four years of Obama.

3.Blame the Rich: he didn;t blame 'the rich', he placed some thoroughly warranted blame on the financial industry and irresponsible corporations.

4. Blame the whites: now see that's bollocks. It's also racist claptrap.

5. Blame the dog: yeah, maybe.

[infinite monkey]

Oh oh way to go Ohio!

I can't believe we pulled it off! A cow orker worked for a couple months on the campaign. We were planning to move to his friend's place in Canada if need be.

Oh wait. I'm a democrat and we won. I must go tell him we don't have to work anymore...we can just live off our gubmint now.

[glatt]

I'm pleased that Obama won, and doubly pleased that he won the popular vote too. But I think it's a mistake to assume there is a liberal mandate. The vote nationwide is apparently 50.1% to 48.4%. That's close, and is not a mandate.

But it's clear that there is some serious work ahead with the fiscal cliff fast approaching, and both parties need to work together. That's something all Americans want government to do. There's going to have to be some compromises from both sides to get this done. And I'm mostly looking at the Republicans, because they have been unwilling to compromise at all on anything.

[infinite monkey]

After I invoked Foghorn Leghorn this came up on the cookies:

"Say yur prayers, yuh flea-pickin' varmint!"
- Yosemite Sam

[infinite monkey]

Oh, I know the realities. Boehner ran uncontested, but I still didn't vote for him.

I just want to be happy for this one day.

[glatt]

You should be happy. It's a great day!

[infinite monkey]

You mean like Eddie Munster?

That's a gouda one! Edam up!

[Trilby]

My sister lives in Boehner country. They're all weirdly stepford wife-ish soccer moms who, apparently, bake a lot and wear three piece outfits for mopping their already clean floors (just like the adverts!)

My sister is not one of them. She stays very, very quiet when they discuss their right-wing conservative views.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Trilby

My sister lives in Boehner country. They're all weirdly stepford wife-ish soccer moms ...

Rush Limbaugh and the Stephord Wifes? A sequeal featuring with a blind man popping pills.

[infinite monkey]

bzzzzt whirrrrr beeeep

dick-eating averted. I repeat: dick-eating averted

whirrrrr beeeppppp

[glatt]

that was a close one.

[BigV]

tease.