07-17-2008, 07:12 PM | #31 | |
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2. I state a fact (bedrock) and build upon that. You don't have the right to force me to pay to educate your kids. This means no matter how many people vote on such a law, it is illegitimate. If I refuse to comply with an illegitimate law, I'm still morally and ethically correct. 3. I think if you and a bunch of other people want to get together and pool your money for a school and you agree to pay a certain portion of your income to support such schools, that's just great. Kudos to you. Just dont' try FORCE others to contribute with illegitimate legislation. 4. I'm sorry if my civil tone chafes you. It's just my normal conversation style.
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I am indeed, but don't limit me to only being a scholar of Constitutional law and the principles behind it. You can add other areas where I've devoted a significant amount of study like computer science, libertarian philosophy, American history, etc...
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07-17-2008, 07:17 PM | #33 |
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I just don't get how people who live in society, who use public roads, have probably pissed in a public toilet, who have access to public libraries, who have access to a public legal system and have access to public health if their situation calls for it, can sprout so much crap.
If you don't like society, go live in a fucking cave dickhead.
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07-17-2008, 07:23 PM | #34 |
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Society won't let him. Why so pissed about an alternative viewpoint? Last I checked we hadn't evolved into a perfect society.
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07-17-2008, 07:38 PM | #35 |
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To be fair, Radar's point has often been that those public facilities shouldn't exist in the first place NOT that it's unfair he should have to pay for something he wants to exist.
The thing is that Radar's interpretation of the constitution (and yes, Radar - that's all it is - YOUR interpretation, if it was hard fact there would be no debate)and the basis for the founding of this country lead him to these extreme views. There is no point in arguing the very real details of our social and political machines with someone who begins with the view that it is all illegitimate and ends with you're a poopy head. Only frustration can come from it.
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07-17-2008, 10:17 PM | #37 |
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You're ok with a doctor picking/choosing patients for that type of reason Clod?
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If you don't like me keeping what I earn than go into that public toilet and flush your head down the toilet because it's more full of shit than your ass. Being against government funded schools is not the same as being against education. Being against government funded retirement is not the same as being against the elderly. Being against government funded healthcare does not mean you're against the poor getting healthcare. In fact the exact opposite is true. Those who rely on government programs get LESS help than they would otherwise privately and through non-profit charities. Only an ignorant cunt would claim otherwise.
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Also, NO it is not my "interpretation" of the Constitution. I don't interpret the Constitution because it means what it says and it says the federal government may not be involved in, or legislate over areas that are not enumerated in the Constitution. End of story. I don't interpret the Constitution...I read it and unlike most people (including many on the supreme court), I actually understand it. Each and every single thing the federal government does that is not enumerated in the Constitution is unconstitutional and illegitimate, PERIOD. End of story. There is no gray area.
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ETA: I'm not saying the current public school system itself is necessary or any good at all. I'm just saying that even if a better system were put in place, it should still be everyone's responsibility to contribute to that system in some way. |
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Those old people need something to complain about.
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