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11-19-2006, 08:10 PM

Keep close to me , and you will be ok .

Ibby · 11-19-2006, 08:15 PM

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...no thanks.

11-19-2006, 08:28 PM

Well , I have always worried about that funny Islamic name you have .

Ibby · 11-19-2006, 08:34 PM

Yes, you would, wouldnt you, you racist fuck?

Aliantha · 11-19-2006, 10:20 PM

I've used wikipedia to look for references for articles I've written. It's a good place to go and get a broad understanding and then move on to more formal documentation.

btw, there are lots of databases online where you can find info on just about any subject you care to research. Wikipedia is just one, and not an acknowledgable source for a bibliography.

Aliantha · 11-19-2006, 10:21 PM

I chose the second option because there is some very bogus information on the site in places.

11-19-2006, 10:30 PM

I do not think that you should write articles , Aliantha . Yoy are not clever enough .

lookout123 · 11-19-2006, 10:35 PM

is it about time for buddug to go away now? cellarites have thick enough skin to deal with name calling, but personal attacks for race or religion are uncalled for.

Aliantha · 11-19-2006, 10:41 PM

I don't think you should voice your opinion Buddug. You are not nice enough.

11-19-2006, 10:50 PM

crocodile jeeeeeeeeez .

Aliantha · 11-19-2006, 10:54 PM

You do seriously have a mental illness don't you? I mean, you just can't be real about some of the things you say. They're just not rational.

It is because of this that I have been less harsh with you than your comments warrant, and I suspect others here feel the same.

You should get some help. You need it. Seriously.

Ibby · 11-20-2006, 01:27 AM

I'm thiiiiiiiiiiiis close to demanding that UT do something about it.

skysidhe · 11-20-2006, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf

This would be a case where you shouldn't trust Wikipedia, even if the answer is correct to some degree.[/url]

I hope that was a joke wolf?

I didn't find any of that on a very thought out and comprehensive page.
If it was on any of the links it needs to be edited.Oh I know. That was YOUR SUBMISSION :p

WIKIPEDIA

Contents [hide]
1 Etymology
2 History
2.1 Pre-Christian origins of holiday
2.2 Christian origins of holiday
2.3 Medieval Christmas and related winter festivals
2.4 The Reformation and the 1800s
2.5 Modern times
3 The Nativity
4 Economics of Christmas
5 Santa Claus and other bringers of gifts
6 Christmas Tree and other decorations
7 Regional customs and celebrations
7.1 Social aspects and entertainment
7.2 Christmas carol media
8 Christmas in the arts and media
9 See also
10 References
11 External Links

Medieval Christmas and related winter festivals

Christmas soon outgrew the Christological controversy that created it and came to dominate the medieval calendar.

The forty days before Christmas became the "forty days of St. Martin," now Advent. Former Saturnalian traditions were attached to Advent. Around the 12th century, these traditions transferred again to the "twelve days of Christmas" (i.e. Christmas to Epiphany).[8]

The fortieth day after Christmas was Candlemas. The Egyptian Christmas celebration on January 6 was adopted as Epiphany, one of the most prominent holidays of the year during the Early Middle Ages. Christmas Day itself was a relatively minor holiday, although its prominence gradually increased after Charlemagne was crowned on Christmas Day in 800 AD.

Northern Europe was the last part to Christianize, and its pagan celebrations had a major influence on Christmas. Scandinavians still call Christmas Jul (Yule), originally the name of a twelve-day pre-Christian winter festival. Logs were lit to honor Thor, the god of thunder, hence the "Yule log." In Germany, the equivalent holiday is called Mitwinternacht (mid-winter night). There are also twelve Rauhnächte (harsh or wild nights).[9]

By the High Middle Ages, Christmas had become so prominent that chroniclers routinely noted where various magnates "celebrated Christmas." King Richard II of England hosted a Christmas feast in 1377 at which twenty-eight oxen and three hundred sheep were eaten.[8] The "Yule boar" was a common feature of medieval Christmas feasts. Caroling also became popular, and was originally a group of dancers who sang. The group was composed of a lead singer and a ring of dancers that provided the chorus. Various writers of the time condemned caroling as lewd, largely due to overtones reminiscent of the traditions of Saturnalia and Yule).[8] "Misrule" — drunkenness, promiscuity, gambling — was also an important aspect of the festival. In England, gifts were exchanged on New Year's Day, and there was special Christmas ale.[8]

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The Reformation and the 1800s

Santa Claus hands out gifts to Union soldiers during the US Civil War in Thomas Nast's first Santa Claus cartoon, Harper's Weekly, 1863.

During the Reformation, Protestants condemned Christmas celebration as "trappings of popery" and the "rags of the Beast". The Catholic Church responded by promoting the festival in a more religiously oriented form. When a Puritan parliament triumphed over the King, Charles I of England (1644), Christmas was officially banned (1647). Pro-Christmas rioting broke out in several cities. For several weeks, Canterbury was controlled by the rioters, who decorated doorways with holly and shouted royalist slogans.[10] The Restoration (1660) ended the ban, but Christmas celebration was still disapproved of by the Anglican clergy.

By the 1820s, sectarian tension had eased and British writers began to worry that Christmas was dying out. They imagined Tudor Christmas as a time of heartfelt celebration, and efforts were made to revive the holiday. The book A Christmas Carol (1843) by Charles Dickens played a major role in reinventing Christmas as a holiday emphasizing family, goodwill, and compassion (as opposed to communal celebration and hedonistic excess).[11]

ECT....ECT...

oh I see, wolfs being funny

This would be a case where you shouldn't trust...

wolf · 11-20-2006, 01:41 PM

For the record ... The screenshot that I posted is exactly what I got when I followed a link given to me by Google when I was searching for History of Christmas United States.

bobkolker · 11-30-2006, 07:55 AM

The Wiki is pretty reliable for matters scientific and mathematical. Some articles are a trifle thin and could use beefing up. But I have not seen gross errors or falsehood in these areas

Bob Kolker

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11-19-2006, 08:15 PM	#32
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	... ... ... ...no thanks. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

11-19-2006, 08:34 PM	#34
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Yes, you would, wouldnt you, you racist fuck? __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

11-19-2006, 10:20 PM	#35
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I've used wikipedia to look for references for articles I've written. It's a good place to go and get a broad understanding and then move on to more formal documentation. btw, there are lots of databases online where you can find info on just about any subject you care to research. Wikipedia is just one, and not an acknowledgable source for a bibliography. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-19-2006, 10:21 PM	#36
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I chose the second option because there is some very bogus information on the site in places. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-19-2006, 08:10 PM	#31
Buddug Guest Posts: n/a	Keep close to me , and you will be ok .

11-19-2006, 08:28 PM	#33
Buddug Guest Posts: n/a	Well , I have always worried about that funny Islamic name you have .

11-19-2006, 10:30 PM	#37
Buddug Guest Posts: n/a	I do not think that you should write articles , Aliantha . Yoy are not clever enough .

11-19-2006, 10:35 PM	#38
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	is it about time for buddug to go away now? cellarites have thick enough skin to deal with name calling, but personal attacks for race or religion are uncalled for. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

11-19-2006, 10:41 PM	#39
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I don't think you should voice your opinion Buddug. You are not nice enough. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-19-2006, 10:50 PM	#40
Buddug Guest Posts: n/a	crocodile jeeeeeeeeez .

11-19-2006, 10:54 PM	#41
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	You do seriously have a mental illness don't you? I mean, you just can't be real about some of the things you say. They're just not rational. It is because of this that I have been less harsh with you than your comments warrant, and I suspect others here feel the same. You should get some help. You need it. Seriously. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-20-2006, 01:27 AM	#42
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	I'm thiiiiiiiiiiiis close to demanding that UT do something about it. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

11-20-2006, 01:41 PM	#44
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	For the record ... The screenshot that I posted is exactly what I got when I followed a link given to me by Google when I was searching for History of Christmas United States. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

11-30-2006, 07:55 AM	#45
bobkolker Kinda New Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1	Trust Wikipedia? The Wiki is pretty reliable for matters scientific and mathematical. Some articles are a trifle thin and could use beefing up. But I have not seen gross errors or falsehood in these areas Bob Kolker

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